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ringmaster
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Does anyone make a good quality copy (or rip off) of the original DW dancing hank ?
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There are copies of the original on the market. How good they are? I have no idea!

I take it you are not interested in the $300 version?
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Mak offered a version but it isn't very well made and the movement action is bad. I've found several originals on auction sites at reasonable prices.
As for the $300 version I purchased one and was totally disappointed with it. The origial is way better because the added feature on the $300 version always ended up a knotted mess.
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I have to wholeheartedly disagree, the Ultimate version is outstanding, and makes it a miracle.

It seems to be common theme for people on the Café, they always blame the prop for their inability to operate a magic trick properly.

The originator Sean Bogunia is using it regularly in his shows around the world and on cruise ships. It was also great enough to get Puck to the next level on America's Got Talent.

http://seanbogunia.com/ultimatehank1.html

61magic, which original are you referring to, as there were 2 different models made by Don Wayne.
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The in hand version used by David Copperfield; not the bottle.
..... and not the Tenyo dancing hank, which is good, but not for what I'm doing.
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Bill Hegbli it seems you have a common theme of being quick to assume when one doesn't care for a prop they are somehow inept.
The is a quote from Sean's website where he addressed the very issue I can referring to:
"The spool is completely enclosed! This helps to eliminate any possible tangle problems by keeping the thread away from moving parts!"
So I guess we can agree to disagree. I believe the original Don Wayne version(s) are better.
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61magic, I guess that is the difference when a person actually handles all the models, and one reads promo material. Sean's early versions were not enclosed, but with proper handling, this was not an issue, as he still had a guide installed. His newer version is enclosed to prevent the possibility of tangling. Not that the earlier version did, I guess he has to justify the increase in price somehow.

I had both the original Don Wayne versions, and in my opinion, they lack the ability for a creative routine. As they are sold, they do not give a way to get into the effect or suggestions how to end the effect. They were nicely made, but the rubberband was a real 'bear' to replace as well. Sean's done away with rubberband working.

If you read my post again, I in no way said you were inept, but it is common theme of many posts here for all the members to knock a good product. Don Wayne's was less expensive, and you did get good value for the price asked. It just left the purchaser with a lot to work out for himself. Magic has always been this way, but today's customers, believe it should be all laid out before them so all they have to do is open the package and perform like a professional.
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Bill Hegbli, I have owned both versions of the Don Wayne product and the first version of Sean's product. I in fact sold the one I had of Sean's version to another Café member.
So I guess I you and I have an equal expertese to make a recommendation...
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On 2012-09-29 00:09, 61magic wrote:
Bill Hegbli, I have owned both versions of the Don Wayne product and the first version of Sean's product. I in fact sold the one I had of Sean's version to another Café member.
So I guess I you and I have an equal expertese to make a recommendation...


So..............
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On 2012-09-27 21:58, 61magic wrote:
Bill Hegbli it seems you have a common theme of being quick to assume when one doesn't care for a prop they are somehow inept.

I'm inclined to agree. No offense, Bill, but you seem angry all the time.
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On 2012-09-27 21:58, 61magic wrote:
Bill Hegbli it seems you have a common theme of being quick to assume when one doesn't care for a prop they are somehow inept.

I'm inclined to agree. No offense, Bill, but you seem angry all the time.


I am very happy all the time, so I guess it is all those who are so defensive about my comments. I believe in honesty. So if the shoe fits, I guess it is the readers own gilt that is reflected.

It is a common theme, to not read my words as typed but to change them to what they think I said.

Alan, as for you, when you ask for help, you are stubborn to consider the advise, and stick with your old way of doing things. Why ask if you don't want other ideas and suggestions. (Notice that is a period, not a question mark.) The Café is a discussion forum, but you and others never discuss, but are quick to get defensive, and stick up for the person who does not explain himself in any way. So how is one to know if he throws things around or actually treats his props well. So it does come into play as a consideration, and must be mentioned. So if they jump to feeling insulted, then want to defend their actions, that is their problem.

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Now that you have taken this forum off topic, I will bring it back on track.

RingMaster, here is the cheap import model currently on the market, which is a copy of the Don Wayne Dancing Hank.

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Dancing-Handk......6739.htm
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On 2012-09-30 20:00, Bill Hegbli wrote:

Alan, as for you, when you ask for help, you are stubborn to consider the advise, and stick with your old way of doing things. Why ask if you don't want other ideas and suggestions. (Notice that is a period, not a question mark.) The Café is a discussion forum, but you and others never discuss, but are quick to get defensive, and stick up for the person who does not explain himself in any way. So how is one to know if he throws things around or actually treats his props well. So it does come into play as a consideration, and must be mentioned. So if they jump to feeling insulted, then want to defend their actions, that is their problem.


But, that's the filter with which you choose to view things, rather than the reality of the situation. Before I ask a question, I've already tried many things. I'm just looking for something I haven't already tried.
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On 2012-09-30 20:00, Bill Hegbli wrote:

Alan, as for you, when you ask for help, you are stubborn to consider the advise, and stick with your old way of doing things. Why ask if you don't want other ideas and suggestions. (Notice that is a period, not a question mark.) The Café is a discussion forum, but you and others never discuss, but are quick to get defensive, and stick up for the person who does not explain himself in any way. So how is one to know if he throws things around or actually treats his props well. So it does come into play as a consideration, and must be mentioned. So if they jump to feeling insulted, then want to defend their actions, that is their problem.


But, that's the filter with which you choose to view things, rather than the reality of the situation. Before I ask a question, I've already tried many things. I'm just looking for something I haven't already tried.


So you see Alan, your acknowledge your questions are not worded properly, to actually get the help you request. If you did not realize it, we have never met, so assuming I, or anyone else would know what your getting at, and trying to express. You then should tell us so we do not waste our time on things you have already tried, instead of ignoring the many suggestions by members kind enough to give you some advice. I don't think that is to much to ask of a person requesting help.
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