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Fred Darevil
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I had a strange idea a few night ago. I saw myself throwing a handful of confetties on stage an announcing the exact total of the little pieces of colored paper ! A woman then said : prove it ! I replied : count them ! At the end of the show she came to count the confetties and... guess what ? I was right ! Am I becoming autistic or only a funny good mentalist ?

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So, after doing Snowstorm in China you can have this as a 5 hour encore! The more I think of it, the better it is; audience participation, definitely an attention getter and I imagine there will be a lot of humorus interaction among the spectators when they crawl around bumping into eachothers behinds.

Now THAT'S entertainment!

Seriously Fred... have you been sniffing those Hypno-heat chemicals again? You promised me you'd stop and only do Roughing-spray from now on!

/Matias
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Why do I get the feeling Freds gonna start publishing? Fred, your messages are beginning to sound like commercials. Take a tip from Doc Hilford and look at his approach to the 2- speak routine. A virtually undetectable product placement technique.
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Bruno,

Here is what I understand from your message: you make me a very nice compliment because if you think that I could publish my ideas it is because you think these ideas could find their place in a book ! Thank you very much. You are true : it could be a clever and undetectable placement technique.
But......... NO! I have no project about publishing a book for the moment. Partly because english is difficult for me. And I know no one her wanting to translate my ideas. Otherwise why not ? But for the moment it is a real pleasure to share ideas with you and it is not a problem if my english is not so good because you don't pay to read my ideas.

Matias : I definitely like your sense of humour ! A 5 hour encore ! I'm still laughing in front of my computer. You know, it is really funny because some spectators trust me about the number of confetties. Others come at the end of the show to count them ! And I can imagine some people in their car on the way back home saying to their wife : "do you really think if knew the number of confetties ?" And the wife answers : "darling ! After all the impossible things he performed you still doubt ?".

Smile Smile Smile I can't stop laughing when I think about it.

Seriously : I think there are great ideas of presentations hidden behind this gag. Effect about instantaneous global perception. I can really imagine Derren Brown in his next TV show going to a pub and asking a man at the bar to throw a handful of toothpicks on the ground and announcing the total of them. something like that.
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On 2002-05-16 06:45, Fred Darevil wrote:

I can really imagine Derren Brown in his next TV show going to a pub and asking a man at the bar to throw a handful of toothpicks on the ground and announcing the total of them. something like that.


Nice idea Fred!

Unfortunately, in England the only thing you're likely to find on the bar of a pub is spilt beer, dirty pork scratchings and skinheads fighting. If your mates ever saw you use a toothpick in a pub, you would never be able to show your face again!

There is an old joke about English pubs. They are so rough, they use a pig on the bar as an air freshener.

Perhaps an adaptation of your idea would be to punch someone's face and then offer to count the teeth on the floor.

Okay, I'm being slightly harsh about English pubs. There are some nice ones. No, really.
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Hang on a minute... didn't Corrinda suggest the use of a NW for telling the number of matches in a box, keys on a keyring, and the number of pairs of shoes my wife has in the closet at home (more than the confetti, that's for sure!)
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What a timely reminder Drew. Smile

We'd certainly not get toothpicks in a pub. Matches yes. But the other stuff, keys on a ring, shoes at home etc.is far more personal and memorable.

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wife's shoes,(more than the confetti, that's for sure!)

Hmmm, wondered where Imilda Marcos got to. Smile

Paul.
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What does that have to do with autism?

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I love these ideas, and Mike is so right!
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What does that have to do with autism?

Nothing, but a lot to do with shoes! lol
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About autism : many autists, and nobody knows why, have a fantastic ability to instant global perception.
In the film Rainman, Dustin Hoffman who plays the role of an autist does the "effect" with the toothpicks in a bar.
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drat, I was just about to make a brilliantly clever comment about rainman. I'm too late. The toothpicks idea was just too perfect. But you beat me to it. I always do that line when impersonating rainman. "YEAH, DEFinitely 947 toothpicks, YEEEEAAAHHH, DEFINitely 947 toothpicks, YEAH"

Ha ha ha

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I'd just be real careful in how you do this. Autism is a serious disability and not everyone is going to find it funny. Rainman was birthed in Hollywood and, as you can imagine, was dramatized. The number of autistic people with the capabilities displayed there is small. Someone with a friend or relative who is autistic may take offense if presented the wrong way.

Just food for thought (Oh, wait that's a different section isn't it?).

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Mike

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On 2002-05-17 15:51, Jonathan wrote:
drat, I was just about to make a brilliantly clever comment about rainman. I'm too late. The toothpicks idea was just too perfect. But you beat me to it. I always do that line when impersonating rainman. "YEAH, DEFinitely 947 toothpicks, YEEEEAAAHHH, DEFINitely 947 toothpicks, YEAH"

Ha ha ha

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Ted Lesley had a very clever effect that involved predicting the number of pieces of confetti. As gar as I know the routine is unpublished.
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Oh really? ANy info on that effect?

About Autistic people. I've thought about this a lot. I've always been in my own world, always by myself just thinking. I'd even talk to myself (I prefer to think of it as thinking out loud) if you want to call it that. My brains always working about something, exploring new ideas. Because of that I've learned a lot and could be considered excelled in certain areas because of it. I wonder if all autistic people recieve the same benefits as those who are constantly in thought, in their own world communicating to themselves about certain things. I could certainly understand how an autistic person could be advanced in some areas. But, maybe only a few can break out into the outside world far enough for those advances to be recognized.

I just had that thought a couple of months ago. I'd always believed that anyone who spent 80% of every day in deep thought about something like I often do would be far more advanced intellectually then they would if they didn't. Could that be why autistic people sometimes excell incredibly at certain things? The things I excell at (or is it accell, spelling is not one of those areas for me. ha ha ha) are because I understand everything involved so much more than those who don't spend so much time constantly in thought about it.

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How do you follow that?

(1)First get a six inch nail - one with as sharp a point as possible.
(2)Obtain a good, heavy hammer.
(3)Place the point of the nail to your skull (it's important that it's the SHARP end)
(4) Give the blunt end a really hard dunt with the hammer.
(5) Don't forget to bow as they cart you off to the ambulance.
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Drew,

That's your answer for EVERYTHING, isn't it?

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I feel very sorry for people with severe disorders. I do not think its very funny to make jokes about these people.
But people who are very "egoistical" have more problems with their brains. All they do is to think about them self. Thats almost worser plus they make this world more harsh.
Many non-magicians thinks magicians are very weird. They act strange and talks strange. If you pretend you have super powers as magician, does not that makes you to a "mental" ill person. Its not normal to pretend you have "magic" power. But thats the role you make when you are a magician.
Its always the observer that judge whats normal or not.
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Hello,

I do agree with you : it's not funny to make jokes about people who have severe disorders. But from my point of view, doing a mental effect about global perception like knowing instantly the number of toothpicks thrown on the floor is a way of proving that even autistic people can do amazing things.
It is a way of telling to "normal" people that we must respect autistics.
I would hate to hear bad jokes about autistics during a show.
Best,
Fred
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I don't think your trick proves anything about autistic persons abilities. Autism is a spectrum disorder and the range of abilities of persons affected likewise varies greatly. When you do a trick that emphasizes one aspect of autism - the fact that a few autistics demonstrate islands of 'genius'- you risk setting up the expectation that all have this ability in some form or another. That would simply not be true. The truth is that all persons, autistic and normal, should be treated with respect, unless they have given us reason to treat them otherwise. Demonstrating an ablility as a human calculator is, or should not be a prerequisite for respect.
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