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Totally absorbed by this book in an almost obsessive compulsive manner.
Thanks and hugs to everyone who contributed to this book.
You have made my year already.

Xo....Sid
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Could someone proide a review of the material given by the following people:

Jerome Finley
Ted Karmilovich
Docc Hillford
Marc Salem
Keith Barry
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Why not buy the book and find out for yourself?
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SamNJ,

some people enjoy reading reviews on things they are interested in. Chances are he's nearly hitting the buy button, the authors he's mentioned in his post obviously interest him.

Let the guy feel comfortable about spending his hard earned dosh.
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On 2013-02-03 03:08, Jonathan100 wrote:
Could someone proide a review of the material given by the following people:

Jerome Finley
Ted Karmilovich
Docc Hillford
Marc Salem
Keith Barry


if I were to say that they were all very useful to me personally, I don't think that would do you any use/good... when it comes to readings, I personally feel that its a tweak here, a nuance there that does, collectively really make a difference... so its not any one thing or piece (for me) its the general absorption that takes place... I also got a lot out of the tony razzano's pieces to be excellent too...

still not finished reading it though, and I've got to re-read it again after that before I can fully comment on anything in any kind of detail... but as I said, a few of us got accused of hyping last time, so if I put the work into writing a review of any kind, it'll probably be a waste of my time - cos the same people will just miraculously appear and cry "hype!"...

five single trick dvds, or this book though... that's how I would "sell it" if you know what I mean? if you are interested in readings, or want to expand upon what you already know - then this book is very useful... if you want to see how readings can look and feel to others, (and by which) will challenge, confirm or alter your own view of them...then this book will do that too...

if you do NOT give readings, and do NOT like them...then I hope you do not consider buying it, cos deep down you feel as though you might be missing out on something (not aimed at anyone, before I get a PM about it!)...

so yeah, massive book, needs a lot of time to study, cogitate and work through...and even the bits I have, as I say, I need more time before I even think about putting pen to paper, or digits to keyboard...
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I agree with Iain:)

Johnny, After reading through the scryer material, which is well worth the price of the book, I can tell you that the rest of the material is only cherries on top of this amazing cake.

Finley's work on Auras is very informative, practical and weighing in at 13 or so pages it is impressive, to say the least.

Ted K's material in the book is priceless as well. He has alway been a champion. He pioneered so much practical mentalsim in our community, we don't even know the half of it:)

Docc's work is always solid. And his work in the BOR is no exception.

Marc Salem is a living legend that has done plenty of amazing work over the years and offered some amazing guidance in the book.

After reading BOR, I am beginning to think, that with the work Keith Barry has done in the comedy circuit, that he is a comic genius.

That mans work in this treasure chest made me LAUGH OUT LOUDit was so fun!

KBarry is hilarious.

Anyway, Johnny 5, all these people with material in question on your list are all working pros and consultants for pros on the side. There is no need to be nervous about making a purchase.

It is going to be difficult for most to review the contents of the book.

It's not so much a magic book, really....

It's different from what you are use to seeing.

Remember, you can only disappoint yourself:)
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For some reason people are reluctant to speak about the material. Not clear why.
Most products are reviewed and discussed on the Café. This section is meant for reviewing products! Even more so there was another thread opened here specifically to discuss the contents of the book and it's not been active in a while.

What's the problem with stating for example Karmilovich explores palm reading, numerology etc or Hilford speaks about this and that, just some basic information about the material they present. Also it’s not like information about each and every contributor was asked merely five of over forty.
Why would this be confused with hype? It's very easy to spot posts that are just meant to hype a product as opposed to posts that are meant to give genuine information.

If nobody wants to talk about the material it usually means one of two things either the material is so good or the material is so ...(:
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I wonder why he reluctant to speak it? It meant here for discuss review! Even more they be other thread but it no speak either.
but it be many say the good talk about many stuff here. they decide it be good and then he buy it, no?

then decision I say be it easy- they no tell so no buy.
keep he money an spend on other product. product without reluctant be better to he.
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Why would this be confused with hype? It's very easy to spot posts that are just meant to hype a product as opposed to posts that are meant to give genuine information.

If nobody wants to talk about the material it usually means one of two things either the material is so good or the material is so ...(:


the third option is what I was trying to explain in my previous post, jonathan...
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I reviewd the material...

It is intergalactic.

To talk about the specific material is going to be hard for anybody as the material is very specific.

But I am telling you that the material is not a waste of money.

But I am sure you will find that out soon:)

The book is great.
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For some reason people are reluctant to speak about the material. Not clear why...If nobody wants to talk about the material it usually means one of two things either the material is so good or the material is so ...(:


I'm reading it now, and there's MANY articles, and MANY pages,
so that might be a reason why there has not been any review
yet.

You can always buy it and sell it if you don't like it Smile
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I'm not into reviewing this either except to say that if you are a reader, it is worth well more than what you are paying it.....if you are not a reader, it may be useless to you.....move on. Easy decision imo.
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Well worth the read!
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I think that a $199.00 is a lot to spend on a book. No doubt about it. IMO, you should definitely give it some serious thought before you spend that kind of money on a book.

That said, "Scryer's Band of Readers" is a very unique and highly informative collection of material that can be useful and inspirational to someone who is a practicing reader (or even to someone who is seriously thinking of commencing their study the craft). Where else can you find such a diverse cross section of approaches to psychic reading from so many experienced and creative professionals? I've been studying and practicing in this area of the mystery craft for almost four decades and have yet to see such a compendium of specific knowledge about how to approach this subject.

Will I use all of the ideas that I have read about in "Band of Readers?" No, I won't...in fact, I disagree with and find some of the material to be "not my cup of tea." You could characterize some of the material as provocative or even controversal. And this is a good thing. It's what makes "Band of Readers" so interesting and valuable -- the diverse viewpoints of these many knowledgeable practioners provide a catalyst for rethinking your own approach to psychic reading. And, to be honest, it's a lot of fun to read through as well.

I also must say there is quite a lot of material in this book that I do find extremely insightful and marvelously creative. It is inspiring to read so much fascinating material -- for example, Tony Razzano's articles on his use of Psy Cards and his approach to palmistry are wonderful, Ted K.'s employment of Scrabble tiles as a reading tool is inspired, Neal Scryer's use of imagery and language is thought provoking, Sal Franchino's simple suggestion for strenthening your reading is excellent, Jon Stetson's tattoo reading idea is just amazing, and I could go on and on.

Is $199 too much money to spend for a this well-produced collection of intellectual stimulation and the rare opportunity to read about how many of the leading lights in this area of the craft approach the subject?

I don't think so.

But you'll have to decide for yourself.

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Good review Joe Z.
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I am still yet to make my way through this huge book... and it may be a while until I do, so I will reserve my comments on contents aside, for the time being. The couple of contribution I have read,

With regards to the price tag: For any reader, or person wishing to enter the world of readings... $199 is, I think, very little to ask.

With just a few of the pieces in this book... a person could set up a very healthy income working as a reader. Im sure quite a few of the contributors already have...
So, what is $199 compared to the potential thousands you could earn.

Of course, this only applies if you were looking to earn money from readings.... and, I know that some purchasers probably won't be. In this case, the information given in this book can transform your mentalism to a whole new level. Which, again... if you are a working mentalist, is well worth the price tag.

This book is not for the merely curious... but, we already knew that. Smile
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I just received my copy this morning and have only had time to briefly skim through it, but it does appear to have some phenomenal articles. I will dive into it very soon and will be happy to give my impressions once I've digested some of the material.
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I just finished reading it, and these are some of my thoughts.

I thought it was going to be about "cold reading" as in "Ian Rowland cold reading". It's mostly not. There are many articles written by people who truly believe in supernatural powers. I don't, so I skipped them. Also, systems as such don't interest me, I'm more interested in the psychology behind (fake) cold reading.

I'm going to read it again, and also try to read the "supernatural articles".
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Maybe you should read the book again Mikael.

that's what I would recommend based off of your most recent post.

(shakes head) I am not sure why you felt like this was going to be another cold reading expose...

Also, Scryer has cleared up and uncovered the largely misunderstood and misconceived topic of what most people believed cold reading to be, and just in the first few pages of the manual... Where you at Mika?

I feel like I should say that I have not read anywhere in the book that anyone believes in supernatural powers nor have I found the supernatural articles you are mentioning you skipped...

I don't think that words means what you think it means;-)

Cold reading, too, IS a system by the way. Most things are, in fact, a system;-) Maybe finding interest will help.

If at first you don't succeed, try again;-)
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(Nods in agreance) Meraux, I hear you LOUD and Clear.

The words you speak my friend are words of truth, haven't found any
supernatural powers being explained yet.

And for Cold reading the knowledge shared was the right mix of blend, if
the whole book was based on that,(cold reading) it might have been a very repetitive.

The Individuals who understand will and those who do not will not.

All in all this Book is like finding a collection of Michael Jackson CDs in the Great Pyramids of Giza. (Smiles) Remember the Time.
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