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On Oct 17, 2015, Robvs wrote:
Now obsolete with Apple's default six digit pin?!

No not really?!
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Yep
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It's not obsolete.

But yes if someone is using a 6 digit pin, you will not be able to use one of the main features of the app.

You will still be able to use quite a few. You will also be able to still pull off miracles for a large portion of iphone users (thus far I only run into 1 out of maybe 10 people who use the 6 digit pin. This can obviously change).
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Plus, you don't have to reveal their unlock code. Reveal their birthday or their pin code, or any 4 digit number.. The 6 digits does not make this useless.
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True but the main selling point of this whole app was... the pin code.

Someone I know tried this out on me in Vegas a few weeks ago and he didn't realize I had the new 6S... so it failed.
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It is no problem at all... just a matter of presentation and asking the right questions. If someone uses a 6 digit code (besides that you can set the/your iPhone 6s to a 4 digit code as well...) you can still present it. Just tell him that you (still) use a 4 digit code... if he uses 6 digits, simply ask him to say aloud his first 2 digits and then try the following 4 digits silently (in order) on your phone to see if it unlocks... Of course it does not; it is even more believable as he tries a part of his pin code to unlock your phone... Jan
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FWIW, complex pass codes have always been around even on iOS. Quite early on I had to deal with someone who had a 6 digit pin.

Certain enterprise systems require this - in other words, these people used their iPhones for work and were required to have more digits, sometimes even words as their pass codes!

This has affected other unlock routines of mine as well, not just app driven ones.

After the first 1 or 2 times, I simply have just learned to ask "do you have a 4 digit unlock code?... I know some people don't kepe the code locks on..."

Now of course, YES these will become more common. But there are so many other methods now that work, there is still value with IUYM in my opinion.
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On Nov 2, 2015, saysold1 wrote:
True but the main selling point of this whole app was... the pin code.

Someone I know tried this out on me in Vegas a few weeks ago and he didn't realize I had the new 6S... so it failed.


Since you knew what he was doing, I'd say it failed anyway...
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FWIW, complex pass codes have always been around even on iOS.


Someone just made up a fact.


A real fun fact: three days after the iphone 6s came out 13 million people had 6 digit codes by default (not unlockable by this app)
Three days prior, NONE had a six digit code by default.

Let me know when Myke uses the 100's of thousands of dollars in revenue to add a toggle button to the screen so that you can still use the app for its flagship effect. For now, I'll stick it in a folder with City Prediction and name it "Apps that don't work as well anymore" because the iphone has always been capable of complex folder naming, since the beginning of time.
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'100's of thousands of dollars in revenue'??!!...... Wake up and smell what your shovelling!!
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'100's of thousands of dollars in revenue'??!!...... Wake up and smell what your shovelling!!


On August 29th 2015, Myke Phillips posted the following in the thread "APPS-alutely/*iunlockyourmind pro in action"*

"About three people, out of thousands, who have about [sic] iUnlockYourMind have mentioned what you have here and I have explained what your concerns are, to them and in the group page..."

Assuming that the post was referring to the retail version, not the pro version, if that number of app users is 2,000 (the minimum number to make his claim of "thousandS" truthful) at the current retail price of $75, that would equate to $150,000 in revenue. The lowest listed price for this app was $45.99 putting the revenue at nearly $92,000 if we use 2,000 in sales as our lowball working number. And if we split the difference (which would not be completely fair, because the app only sat for 6 months at the low rate and almost two years at the current rate) we are still in the 100's of thousands of dollars.

If I must provide a definition of profit vs. revenue I can, and we can also break down the commission costs of an app. Nonetheless, my claim is correct if Myke's is.
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On Nov 3, 2015, DynaMix wrote:
FWIW, complex pass codes have always been around even on iOS.


Someone just made up a fact.


A real fun fact: three days after the iphone 6s came out 13 million people had 6 digit codes by default (not unlockable by this app)
Three days prior, NONE had a six digit code by default.

Let me know when Myke uses the 100's of thousands of dollars in revenue to add a toggle button to the screen so that you can still use the app for its flagship effect. For now, I'll stick it in a folder with City Prediction and name it "Apps that don't work as well anymore" because the iphone has always been capable of complex folder naming, since the beginning of time.


???

Why would I make up a fact? People have been able to use 6 digit pins, even words as their passcode for some time now. Well before iOS9. This is pretty well documented man. It's also happened to me several times in performance.

You seem really bitter. I have no horse in this race, just adding to the subject by explaining that there are ways to get around it. But I do agree (obviously) that incoporating 6 digits would be the best move. I have no idea if that's possible from their end.
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Very true, 6 digit pins have been around since before the app was created, at least as far as in the UK my company provides blackberry's, but in the US they get iphones and these have always used a password rather than the default 4 digit pin of prior ios's.

As far as 13 million people being on 6 digit pins, fuzzy logic, whilst the 6s defaults to 6 digit pin it is entirely possible to change it to a 4 digit pin. As early adopters tend to be tech savvy and people have a tendency to stick with a pin practically for life. As a fraud specialist in the payment card industry I can attest to the fact that an alarming number of people have the same pin on all of their bank cards and their pass code.

I have no doubt that a significant number of those people have done exactly the same as my son, my daughter and all of my 6s owning friends and changed the settings to a 4 digit pin and set it to their old faithful. To date when performing I have only come across a couple of 6's and a 6s plus, one was on a 4 digit pin and two had no passcode at all.

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I use Cal-ender by M Murray frequently.

a. Six digit pins are (very slowly) becoming more prevealnt
b. alpah / numeric iphone passwords (here in the UK) have been preseneted to me on a handful of occasions during the past 18 months
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Is there any place ... any place at all ... to purchase the pro version???
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You have to contact Myke directly. Jan
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Looking for the best contact info for Myke
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On Nov 2, 2015, JanForster wrote:
It is no problem at all... just a matter of presentation and asking the right questions. If someone uses a 6 digit code (besides that you can set the/your iPhone 6s to a 4 digit code as well...) you can still present it. Just tell him that you (still) use a 4 digit code... if he uses 6 digits, simply ask him to say aloud his first 2 digits and then try the following 4 digits silently (in order) on your phone to see if it unlocks... Of course it does not; it is even more believable as he tries a part of his pin code to unlock your phone... Jan



Nice Jan, thanks for the post Smile
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Is there an android version as well?
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