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hoodrat Veteran user Southern California 388 Posts |
I have been reading some news articles today that talk about how schools are deciding to drop cursive handwriting instruction from their curriculums. Schools say that teaching cursive writing is no longer needed because people hardly handwrite anything anymore. Today's communications take place via keyboards to type emails, Twitter posts, Facebook updates, and blogs. I can't recall the last time I have had to write something in cursive writing. If I do write something (grocery list, short note to myself, etc.), I simply print in all capital letters. In fact, it's gotten so bad that I have sort of forgotten how to write my signature (in cursive!). I seldom sign my full name anymore because there is no need to. I used to have a rather fancy, scroll-like signature based on cursive writing, but I have realized over the last couple of years that I cannot reproduce that fancy signature like I used to be able to do. Now my signature (when I do have to sign something) is just a squiggly, horizontal line/scrawl. Anybody else notice that their handwriting and signature are deteriorating due to non-use these days?
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I stopped using cursive as soon as I left school. I don't remember why. I just didn't like doing it. Of course I can't do it anymore at all.
But I have no problem with my signature. And I use it daily. :) |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
My signature is very stylized and not at much in keeping with traditional cursive. But it is also hardly readable either. Mostly, I print, but that comes from a habit of doing it for mechanical drawings. That also can be somewhat stylized, but at least you can read it.
Formal cursive... I can do it, but it isn't the best due to lack of practice, and I don't see a need to practice it.
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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
I use a pen as much as a keyboard. I ONLY print except for my signature, because I can't read my own cursive half the time, so I can't expect anyone else to be able to read my chicken scratch.
I have been told by many that I have the neatest handwriting they have ever seen. My cursive could be used for code if need be. Iven
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
I wrote "long hand" all through school and I still use it exclusively today. Cursive is some new fangled word that means long hand.
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Kevin Connolly Inner circle New Jersey 1329 Posts |
Schools around here haven't taught cursive or penmanship in years. The kids today can't even read it, let alone write it. While we're at it, spelling isn't taught anymore either.
Let's throw more money at education, it's working so well. Not.
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
I still write in cursive, be it journals or magical notes. I find that writing letters and cards in long hand (Cursive) seems a bit more personal. Those that have received them have commented the same. Just my opinion, but it seems with the decay of the written language also goes a bit more of society.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2012-10-10 10:48, Dreadnought wrote: I agree.
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
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On 2012-10-10 10:48, Dreadnought wrote: yay! I agree. Though my handwriting can get a little messy sometimes. When I went back to school, I had more opportunity to use it. But I like mailing cards. A lot of people don't want to spend money on them now- they see them as an unnecessary expense- even the stamp, I guess- 'cause really they could make their own cards by hand- that can be fun. I enjoy doing that sometimes, but I also like looking for a nice one to buy. |
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FatHatter Regular user I'm here you're there and that's that. 137 Posts |
In a few more years maybe I'll have secret code writing, though I find it hard to believe that one couldn't figure out the letters what with them looking like the letters and all.
Signature is fine, same as always. |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
Timely thread, I've just finished reading Pygmalian. Shaw might see this as a prime time to introduce a phonetic alphabet. They say he wrote all of his plays in phonetic shorthand- couldn't use the type he preferred, though, because his secretary couldn't read it. She had only been trained in the Pitman "standard".
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3042 Posts |
My longhand was terrible even in Catholic school where the sisters drilled it into us; one of them used to bust on me and tell me I should go to medical school. Nowadays I tend to print, mostly from years of working on architectural and design drawings, but also because it's legible. My signature looks like something Jsckson Pollock would have done.
IMHO, one of these days today's kids are going to have a wake-up call when their technology goes down and they realize they can't do anything without it: can't write, can't read, can't find their way somewhere, can't do simple math, can't buy anything... Meanwhile, us old farts will be chuckling away...
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
Cursive writing was only neccessary when using quill or nib pens. It was the most efficent way to write with them. Since the advent of the ball point there was no longer any reason to inflict this archaic form of writing on innocent children.
We no longer teach them how to cut a pen out of a quill or how to prepare a nib pen for use. so why should we keep teaching them how to write with one?
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
Why teach art, music, industrial arts or phys ed. ?
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Kevin Connolly Inner circle New Jersey 1329 Posts |
Or spelling.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
You're on the right track. Why is anything in particular taught in public schools?
I would think that the justification for teaching basic literacy and numeracy is different from the justification of teaching literature or geometry. The justification for science is different from the justification for civics. What to include in each curriculum? Let's talk.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Cursive is a meaningless substitute word for Longhand
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2012-10-10 12:09, Dreadnought wrote: Why not teach How to shoe a horse, use a buggy whip or how to button your spats? I'm sure they had this same argument when they went from Gothic Text to Longhand. Society moves ever forward and we abandon that which we no longer deem useful or entertaining. We still, or at least many of us find art, music, industrial arts and phys ed useful, entertaining and desirable to learn or teach our children about. Few have the same feelings about cursive writing and fewer still can come up with justification to waste valuable classroom time teaching something that is no longer used in the modern world.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-10-10 13:44, Al Angello wrote: Synonyms are ruining society.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
As a dyslexic I liked longhand.
If you start in the right direction in longhand (which is a 50/50 chance) you are home free. Whereas in printing you have to get each single letter in the right direction. That really slows writing down a lot. Now that I'm having fewer problems of that sort I notice I do print my show lists because they are easier to read. As people get older their writing is generally harder to read. I'd rather read bad printing than bad longhand because a single bad letter is easier to decipher than a train wreck of a whole word in longhand. There is a lot of variation in my signature. I just hope I can keep using a pencil. Somehow I think better with a pencil in hand. Why didn't any of this come up in the Presidential debates? -Mary Mowder |
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