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dearwiseone
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A few years ago I bought some sticky back Black Velvet (from magicauction, I believe) but I can't find it anymore. Any ideas who sells this or where I might find it?

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Kevin
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I buy from both Edmund Scientific and McMaster-Carr.
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the Sponge
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I just bought some from.......magicauction.com it's still listed.

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dearwiseone
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Ooops, I must have missed it!

I was hoping to find a source where I could just buy a few yards, not bid, wait a week, then buy another yard.

Anyone know a better source?

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Kevin
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You can get small amounts from Rockler. I bought some last week and got it in just three days. However they are pretty pricy.
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Just email them, tell them what you want. They must have tons of it. nobody bids on it.

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dearwiseone
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Yeah, they're not the direct seller though. I'm trying to find the direct seller.


Thanks.
Ron Reid
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Here's the link to Edmund Scientific, although they're out of stock at the moment...thanks, Michael!

http://www.scientificsonline.com/black-f......ive.html

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Here's the link for Rockler...thanks, Gimpy!

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=9852&site=ROCKLER

I was reading the reviews, and it sounds like the adhesive is VERY strong. One reviewer recommends using Windex on the adhesive side before applying.

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I buy from Edmund also. Actually that is the only source I knew of, but I have had good luck with their product.
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Never heard of the Windex trick. I would guess this is so you can reposition the material a bit before it sticks. That would be very helpful as once you get the velvet stuck on one side you are commited. If you try to pull it back off and try again the adhesive seems weaker.
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The Windex trick goes back over 25 years in my sign painting/vinyl application days.
You must be careful to NOT use too much. You need only spray a LIGHT mist on the surface and NOT the adhesive side, then apply to the surface.
Position the adhesive material above and tightly suspend it as you slowly lower it into postion.

Let one side down and, using your hand for adhesive velvet or a squeegee for vinyl, firmly and slowly burnish the material down from as you are laying it down into postion. This works the air bubbles and windex out as you go.
There are a few more subtlties to this but too hard to put into words.
I have been applying adhesives for over 25 years now and can tell you...it can go perfectly fine..or a complete disaster.
Take your time.
Hope this helps a bit.
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Chance,

What is the advantage of the windex? dose it make it stick better?
Michael Baker
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This kind of explains it. http://www.abortionno.org/index.php/choi......ructions

The technique is similar to how I use water to "float" waterslide decals into position before squeegeeing out the water and air bubbles with a brayer.

The Windex (or even a drop of dish detergent in water) creates what is known as "wet water". This is simply water with some agent in it that affects the surface tension of plain water, allowing it to flow more freely. I've used this also to glue ballast to model railroad tracks. Plain watered-down glue would tend to bead and not flow. By adding the agent, such as a drop of dish detergent, it allows the thinned glue to flow through the ballast (which is like coarse sand), and therefore bind properly.

For adhesive backed sheets, this allows the user to position a sheet with more accuracy, rather than having the usually agressive adhesive "grab" everything it contacts. The squeegee process simply removes this flow agent, then allowing the adhesive to do it's job.
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Bill Hegbli
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Great tips, I would imagine that the Windex with ammonia is not used, but the less powerful Windex?
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Perfect timing for me on the Windex trick. Thanks!
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Is this stuff better than ultra flat paint or velvet for, say, a Sq-Cir?
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On 2012-12-31 15:29, Higgenbottom wrote:
Is this stuff better than ultra flat paint or velvet for, say, a Sq-Cir?


Yes.
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