On 2012-10-15 08:47, mbl16 wrote:
I suggest TKO 2.0

It is a real nice utility that I have come to love. If you like coins you will love it!

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2700

On 2012-10-15 00:00, Michael_MacDonald wrote:
http://www.coinvanish.com/

you may also like easy to master coin miricles by Michal Ammar 1-8
you have the coin bible bob. that is the foundation for solid coin work.

goods luck with your quest my friend and do not be a stranger

On 2012-10-15 11:38, mahucharn wrote:

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On 2012-10-15 08:47, mbl16 wrote:
I suggest TKO 2.0

It is a real nice utility that I have come to love. If you like coins you will love it!

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2700

I don't agree with this for a beginner. TKO is a great device, but for someone who is just starting to learn coin magic I think that Bobo's, the Ammar series, Jones' Metal (vol 1 & 2 especially), and even some of Roth's material would be much more valuable to get some of the core material down.

On 2012-10-15 08:47, mbl16 wrote:
I suggest TKO 2.0

It is a real nice utility that I have come to love. If you like coins you will love it!

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2700

On 2012-10-16 09:35, Dirtytrix wrote:

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On 2012-10-15 11:38, mahucharn wrote:

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On 2012-10-15 08:47, mbl16 wrote:
I suggest TKO 2.0

It is a real nice utility that I have come to love. If you like coins you will love it!


I don't rely on gimmicks with card magic either but for coin magic it might become useful, however I do enjoy the sleight of hand in coin magic tests me greatly especially when I perform, as they say practice makes perfect
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2700

I don't agree with this for a beginner. TKO is a great device, but for someone who is just starting to learn coin magic I think that Bobo's, the Ammar series, Jones' Metal (vol 1 & 2 especially), and even some of Roth's material would be much more valuable to get some of the core material down.

I agree to the extent that it would be beneficial to get some of the more basic stuff down first, but since Ozzy says he already has some material and after watching Ozzy's video he's clearly not a complete novice. And, buy it now or buy it later, no doubt that TKO 2.0 is an awesome utility for any coin OR card manipulator.

If you already have the ability to perform a couple of different utility passes or shuttles, and are able to effectively employ some redirection/misdirection then TKO can be really effective without the need to employ it in the more conventional way - which is actually way easier in my opinion. Sorry if that's sounds a bit cryptic.

Ozzy, if you are really into complete vanishes then you might also want to have a look at sleeving. Metal 1 covers the subject briefly but I'd encourage to do a bit of research into the work of David Jay and others such as DR E M Roberts.

If want to explore the use of utilities (such as TKO 2.0) to aid in your vanishes then also have a look at David Jay's "Sleeve Star" at the same time. In fact both could be used in conjunction to excellent effect, however I would still suggest taking the time to really learn some other stuff without the use of gaffs and utilities - so long as you don't regard these excellent utilities as a replacement for good basic coin work then I would recommend you look at them at least. You still need to do the work yourself, no getting away from that.

Personally, I would perhaps alter your mission to actually perfect other stuff rather than just complete vanishes. By setting yourself some different goals you'll broaden your skillset at the same time, and in that process you'll find the vanishes you seek in a more organic approach. For example, see if you can't nail down a simple and practical 'coins across' routine - you'll get all kinds of stuff out of that. Currently I'm using one very similar to that described on Metal 1 and it goes over pretty well.

On 2012-10-15 08:44, Dirtytrix wrote:
I can highly recommend Eric Jones "Metal" series. Metal 1 covers all the basic material, vanishes, reveals, grips and holds and various utlity moves. Metal 2 goes into greater detail and is a little more advanced, Metal 3 introduces gaffs into your coin work. The complete set makes for a very comprehensive piece of work. You can either download it from ellusionist.com :-

http://www.ellusionist.com/metal-dvd-by-eric-jones.html

or since you're in the UK you can buy the DVD from :-

http://www.worldmagicshop.com

Personally I went for the download so I can watch it from my iPhone, Laptop or tablet, plus the chapters on the download make it really easy to find exactly what you want with just a mouse-click in your iTunes player or whatever you use. Eric has a great teaching style and breaks everything down really nice. As a complete set it's not going to be cheap but you get what you pay for. You won't be disappointed.