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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
I've noticed a trend in TV whether it is Modern Family or Arrested Development: every time they want to make a character seem foolish, quirky, or out of touch, they make them a magician.
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Because we're nerds.
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Jimeh Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1399 Posts |
What Stoney said.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
A trend?? Where have you been?
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
Most of the "Dorks" I see on tv (commercials) are Fathers making a fool of themselves in front of their Wives and Children.
TV tends to be Dorky anyway. Iven
Give the gift of Life, Be an Organ Donor.
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seadog93 Inner circle 3200 Posts |
I definitely do not think that all the dorks on TV are magicians at all.
I think that what you are seeing is that all the magicians on tv are dorks, that's different. As a magician you probably notice every time a magician shows up far more than anything else. Barney Fife on how I met your mother is a magic geek on the show and he is weird, but not any weirder than everyone else on the show. There was some crime show (was it the mentalist?) where there was a murder of a magician and one of the detectives ended the show by showing why she was moved by the beauty of magic.
"Love is the magician who pulls man out of his own hat" - Ben Hecht
"Love says 'I am everything.' Wisdom says 'I am nothing'. Between the two, my life flows." -Nisargadatta Maharaj Seadog=C-Dawg=C.ou.rtn.ey Kol.b |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I don't want to offend us all, but with the exception of the GREATS, the real world sees us as dorks.
Here's something to contemplate: I spent several hours thinking about a way to do a DL with some kind of reason to do it. The DL is stupid. If you could really do magic, you'd just take a card and show it. You wouldn't turn it back over again and place it on top of the deck. Now, I came up with a trick that could mitigate that particular problem. While thinking about it. While thinking about DLs. While thinking about magic. And at some point I thought, Who but us even gives a flying intercourse? We're obsessed with details that don't actually mean anything to anyone other than ourselves. If that is not nerd-dom, or dork-dome, I don't know what it is. Face it, my friends. We are DIFFERENT. If the world perceives this difference as nerdiness or dorkiness, then we ought to pay attention. RANT ON: What David Blaine gave to us all (and yes, it was a gift) was to re-situate magic in another context. No tails, boxes, whatever. Just go out into the street and shake a few people's sense of reality. It was a brilliant idea. And all of us can still do it! We don't have to pretend we are Thurston. Or Copperfield. We can be ourselves, and shake a few people's sense of reality. If we can do this, the TV stereotypes would be irrelevant. Go to a bar, freak someone out, and don't feel like a dork or a nerd, though YOU ARE A NERD OR A DORK. RANT OFF. |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Agreed on the David Blaine thing...
Like it or not, he made us Magicians a bit "normal" if not "cool"... However... I see Magic in a different realm altogether. The "visual" performance side of Magic may indeed be seen as "Nerddome" but Mentalism... THAT can shake people's core belief systems. Don't believe me? Watch the next time you see properly done broken glass walking, full body catalepsy, nail piercing stunts and hypnosis/suggestion-based effects. Watch the audience. And Cold Reading. I've had men and women in tears from that experience, as I'm sure many of you have. (Tears because it was well done, not because it sucked... Before that joke comes in. ) People start cults/religions with those. Seriously. Mentalism in Magic, to me, is still one of the strongest disciplines in human civilisation. Feel free to disagree though.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts |
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On 2012-10-18 12:50, stoneunhinged wrote: Couldn't agree with you more. I saw a kid in my small rural town yesterday parked in front of the local Walgreens tryin' to be cool and playing a bad guitar and singing bad songs. The kid had absolutely no talent. I felt embarrassed for him. But I don't think he really gave a rat's butt and was just doing it to hang out and have fun. He was a dork and a nerd. But HE was having fun. What's wrong with that? Just like I am when I'm in the line at the supermarket doing a paddle trick for a little kid or flashing my fire wallet when I get my credit card out. I'm a complete dork when I do it. Sometimes folks don't like it and sometimes I end up doing stuff for other folks just to "see it again." I love restaurants for that. Waiters and waitresses are great folks to play with. Also doctor and dentist offices are great places to be a dork. Life is good.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
My neighbor rang my doorbell at 2:30 a.m. this morning, can you believe that, 2:30 a.m.!? Lucky for him I was still up playing my drums. |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
Bill Bixby.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-10-18 23:30, S2000magician wrote: But the question is Why?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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AllAboutMagic Veteran user California 333 Posts |
They had some segments about magic on Modern Family this week. I thought it was hilarious!
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-10-18 23:36, LobowolfXXX wrote: My mistake: misunderstood the question. Jethro Bodine. |
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JRob Veteran user Central South Carolina 395 Posts |
Looks like I'm sunk. If you want to portray some as a dork, make him/her a magician.
Want to make him/her look like a dullard, to have him/her reading comic books.
"Jim Roberts, AKA: Professor Jay Rob "<br>
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2012-10-19 07:15, JRob wrote: Here is your salvation: Stop watching TV.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
Great posts all, especially Stone and Pakar! I also find it interesting that when a movie is about magic, magicians never play the part. The Illusionist and The Prestige for example would have been disastrous with magicians in the roles.
Oh, and while Ricky Jay is a god as a magician, his acting is, well, I simply cannot find the words. But I want to further Slide's question: the magician in tails and top hat is generations past thank to Henning, Copperfield, Blaine, and others. Why do you folks think that the image still exists? Yours nerdfully, Vlad |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Why do all the men in the house leave the room when the magic show starts?
Why do some magicians wear bowling shirts? Why do some magicians wear tuxedo T-shirts? Why do card guys wear corny magician ties? Why do so many magicians mumble the same boring magicians patter out of the side of their mouth's, and think they are being funny? Why do so many magicians do nothing but "put you to sleep" card tricks? I could go on, and on, and on but the bottom line here is that most magicians are dorks.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Josh the Superfluous Inner circle The man of 1881 Posts |
I like it when I tell a girl I'm a magician, and they respond "That's cool". I always think, not really.
What do you want in a site? "Honesty, integrity and decency." -Mike Doogan
"I hate it, I hate my ironic lovechild. I didn't even have anything to do with it" Josh #2 |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
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On 2012-10-18 12:37, seadog93 wrote: When did you see Barney Fife on "How I met your mother"? That's quite the crossover! - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-10-18 12:37, seadog93 wrote: That's amazing, inasmuch as Don Knotts has been dead for 6½ years. |
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