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Dimitri Mystery Artist Veteran user Israel/Ukraine 355 Posts |
I always felt that my voice is my weak point, I speak fast, not clear and also I should speak louder so to be heard well in a loud enviroment.
I have done some exercises in the past but without a significant change, any tips on the subject ? thanks |
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Mowee Loyal user 239 Posts |
The best thing you can do is practice projecting. You want to breathe from the diaphragm. When you speak imagine your voice hitting the farthest wall from you. A good speech pathologist can be of assistance. As for the speaking fast, just slow down.
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
Droning techniques may assist you with this. Try a google search for it. It will help you slow down your speech and annunciate better.
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1337 Posts |
I'm a big fan of Toastmasters. Great organization to improve your speaking and to network. Find a local club at toastmasters.org and ask to attend one of their club meetings as a guest. They'll love to have you and you can check it out for yourself.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
Try teaching. I'm serious: Sunday School, after-school day care, whatever. You'll spend a lot of your time talking over a very noisy crowd, and you'll learn quickly.
About three years ago I flew to Toronto to teach a class at the University of Toronto. I was in a lecture hall that held about 300 students. As a gentleman was setting up my computer he asked if I'd like to use a lapel mike. "No, I'll be fine." "Oh, then you'll use the mike on the lecturn?" There was one student in the far, upper, left corner of the classroom. I looked at her and asked, "Can you hear me?" She nodded. "No, I'll be fine." That came from nothing more than teaching . . . for over 20 years. |
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Yellowcustard Inner circle New Zealand 1334 Posts |
The mare you use it the better it becomes. But the idea of going to toast master is a good one. I had a friend go to a sinning coach. She had read a lot about using your voice, she was not sure what was what in practice. So she decide to go to a sinning voice coach. The coach was happy to tailor for her needs. It was not that costly. And after 2-3 lessons the strength of her voice was amazing.
Also if your doing a lot of performance drink plenty of water and stay away from fatty foods. I swear by a honey and lemon in the morning and in the evening especially when busking.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-11-13 00:46, Yellowcustard wrote: I think that I've heard of those, but by a different name. |
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LeoH Elite user 437 Posts |
I need to find one of those sinning coaches............preferably shapely redhead...............
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Go to a hospital or nursing home and read stories out-loud to willing patients. Strive not only for projection, but using your voice inflection to bring the story alive. The required "look ahead" skills will also become "think ahead" skills and add confidence to your new voice.
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Gary T. Veteran user 375 Posts |
Take an acting class, they'll cover this.
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Mowee Loyal user 239 Posts |
Another thing is to look for your optimum pitch. A good speech coach will help you find the note which works best for your voice. If you don't want to teach, check out reading for the blind...same type of gig where you have to read and be a good communicator.
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Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1538 Posts |
Join a local choir; learning to sing properly teaches much of the rudimentary vocal control techniques.
As mentioned, breathe with your diaphram (not that type). As odd as it sounds, pick up "My Fair Lady" and practice the exercises Henry Higgins puts Eliza through. They sound silly, but they work. There's another great part in "Singing in the Rain" where a vocal coach attempts to train Gene Kelly... "Around the rugged rocks the ragged rascal ran..." Sorry, got off track there. But they're worth doing! Whenever I'm on my way to the pitch or a gig, I have a barbershop quartet CD I sing along to; gets my pipes warmed up nicely and puts me in the right frame of mind.
"All you need is in Fitzkee."
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
Another good way to project is through the soft palate in your mouth. By lifting the palate up and projecting the sound through it, you can actually produce more sound like the Hollywood Bowl. The way to lift your soft palate is to imitate the start of a yawn. Yawning is a good way of warming up the voice because it naturally relaxes all the throat muscles and drops the larynx. This gives you more room in the back of the mouth and throat to resonate, and let the air flow naturally.
Try to yawn. Drop the jaw and feel the openness in the back of the mouth and top of throat. Then say "ah". Repeat the "ah" sound over and over and push the sound through the palate. You can feel it when you repeat this like a metronome. Another thing I do it to put a pencil between your teeth and say the "ah". You can feel the sound coming from your palate. Also, if you practice creating a trough in your tongue, this will also help. Together with lifting the palate, you will get a nice sound without shouting. As far as talking slow, a good trick is to take your type written patter and with a pencil put a backslash on the words you want to pause at. A double backslash when you want a longer pause. Then read it out loud pausing at the backslash marks. Some people find it so hard to slow down. A bit George Burns did was to take a puff on his cigar before delivering the punchline. If you find it hard for you to slowdown, try picking up a prop in between the pauses. This will give you motivation for the pause and might make it easier. |
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Dimitri Mystery Artist Veteran user Israel/Ukraine 355 Posts |
Wow, so many interesting ideas that never occured to me, thanks a lot to all the replies!!
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M Sini Inner circle 1359 Posts |
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On 2012-11-12 17:48, imgic wrote: I second this suggestion! |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-11-12 17:48, imgic wrote: Great suggestion! A magician friend of mine has been a member of Toastmasters for years. He's so busy (as a magician) that he regularly gives me gigs that he cannot cover. |
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L Trunk Loyal user Australia 207 Posts |
Check out Roger Love's stuff.
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abracadanny New user 69 Posts |
I have a semi-similar problem I would like help with?
I do not know why but when I am on Stage performing magic my voice gets a significantly higher then normal(only on stage not close-up). I have a a couple possible reasons why but not sure. My thought is it might be Talking loud, nerves, or excitement. One Person has told me, and I quote, "you are amazing but you do not have a magician like voice." Has anyone else had this problem? If so what do you do about it? Magical Wishes, Danny B. |
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
I don't know why, but I do have a solution. Utter the sound, "Hmm", then speak. It should bring your voice at the correct timbre.
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TeslaTao New user 65 Posts |
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On 2012-11-12 20:46, S2000magician wrote: I'm a professional teacher too. I had training in theatre so I knew how to project my voice when I started, but teaching really is great practical experience. I noticed when I started out I was chugging water all day to keep my wind pipes from drying out. If you really want to improve your voice, I recommend "Set Your Voice Free" by Roger Love. It's amazing what he can do for you with his book. For like $2 on Amazon, it's definitely worth it. |
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