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tpax Elite user Columbia, Maryland 443 Posts	Posted: Nov 12, 2012 11:46 pm 0 I just got this in a bundle and there isn't any of the "special" chalk. Anyone know where to find it? The slates are in pristine shape.
RCP Inner circle Two Minnie's in The Hell's Half Acre, The Republic of Texas 2183 Posts	Posted: Nov 13, 2012 01:14 am 0 Have you tried Docc?
tpax Elite user Columbia, Maryland 443 Posts	Posted: Nov 13, 2012 03:44 am 0 I have sent Docc a few emails and no response.
jesse_james_mcguire Regular user 172 Posts	Posted: Nov 15, 2012 07:10 am 0 I have also emailed him several times to get some and never get any response.. I have lost mine over a yr ago..
Sean-Paul Regular user 167 Posts	Posted: Nov 17, 2012 05:06 pm 0 I recently bought some vintage "visible slate writing" chalk made by Abbotts years ago. The Directions were incomplete and not helpfull at all. From what I understand on another thread from a few years back the book, "MODEREN CHEMICAL MAGIC" has all the info on the chalk and chemicals. Once I get the book I will report back on my findings.
Tim Dowd Special user ...Making the Magic Happen! 942 Posts	Posted: Nov 19, 2012 02:32 pm 0 Docc just got or is getting married... so that might be the reason for the delay... did you purchase the slates directly from him? Timothy Dowd ...Making the Magic Happen! http://www.timothydowd.com These are my points of view; I accept no responsibility for your interpretation of what I just said...
mstgracy Regular user United States 139 Posts	Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:12 pm 0 I have some from back in the 60's I sent for free to someone who needed it. If you pay shipping I would be happy to send it to you as I don't use it. Cheers Kyle. PM me.
B.Clay New user 97 Posts	Posted: Nov 20, 2012 03:12 am 0 Read Burling Hull. It's in "World of Mentalism." You can make it yourself, but I would double the amount of gum arabic given the quality of most available chalk these days. Just my 2¢.... Regards, B.
jonnyboy Inner circle San Diego 1021 Posts	Posted: Nov 20, 2012 03:38 am 0 Docc just took some time from his honeymoon to make a special (and very informative) cameo appearance, with his lovely new bride in attendance, at MindVention last week in Vegas. So he may be a little too busy to answer emails right now.
tpax Elite user Columbia, Maryland 443 Posts	Posted: Nov 25, 2012 03:13 am 0 I saw a post from Docc on another board that he is moving to a Island in the Bahammas with his new wife. Thanks for the info on chemical magic and Burling Hull. I hope to take Kyle up on his offer. Tom
mstgracy Regular user United States 139 Posts	Posted: Nov 25, 2012 11:04 am 0 And it will be done. Its still in packaging and has the directions.
tpax Elite user Columbia, Maryland 443 Posts	Posted: Dec 1, 2012 01:56 pm 0 Got it, Thanks!
Docc Hilford V.I.P. 377 Posts	Posted: Dec 2, 2012 05:26 am 0 Hi there. I don't supply the chalk separately. For the very reasons underlying here. People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk. It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers. And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime. I've used one piece for over 3 years! When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately. It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism. And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions. If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock! The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch. Why not buy from the creator? Peace, Docc
jesse_james_mcguire Regular user 172 Posts	Posted: Dec 3, 2012 05:24 am 0 I did buy one at magic in the Rockies (2 yrs ago) after watching you do it on stage, and have moved 2x since then and don't know where the heck the chalk is. I think it got thrown out by my evil ex-girlfriend as she threw away half of my magic.. That was a bad day for me.. Lost lots of stuff.
RNK Inner circle 7528 Posts	Posted: Dec 20, 2012 07:01 pm 0 Quote: On 2012-12-02 00:26, Docc Hilford wrote: Hi there. I don't supply the chalk separately. For the very reasons underlying here. People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk. It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers. And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime. I've used one piece for over 3 years! When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately. It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism. And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions. If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock! The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch. Why not buy from the creator? Peace, Docc Check out Bafflingbob.com
RNK Inner circle 7528 Posts	Posted: Dec 20, 2012 07:04 pm 0 Quote: On 2012-12-02 00:26, Docc Hilford wrote: Hi there. I don't supply the chalk separately. For the very reasons underlying here. People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk. It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers. And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime. I've used one piece for over 3 years! When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately. It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism. And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions. If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock! The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch. Why not buy from the creator? Peace, Docc Well that's a bunch of bull... I was going to buy these from someone here but Docc apparently won't sell the chalk because I bought it used. That's pretty shallow if you ask me. Shame.... And this, "When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately. It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism." I never had a problem with any other creator purchasing an accessory I needed for something that was not bought from them. Oh well, guess he only wants limited business... Check out Bafflingbob.com
RCP Inner circle Two Minnie's in The Hell's Half Acre, The Republic of Texas 2183 Posts	Posted: Dec 20, 2012 09:33 pm 0 Quote: On 2012-12-20 14:04, RNK wrote: Quote: On 2012-12-02 00:26, Docc Hilford wrote: Hi there. I don't supply the chalk separately. For the very reasons underlying here. People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk. It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers. And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime. I've used one piece for over 3 years! When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately. It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism. And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions. If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock! The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch. Why not buy from the creator? Peace, Docc Well that's a bunch of bull... I was going to buy these from someone here but Docc apparently won't sell the chalk because I bought it used. That's pretty shallow if you ask me. Shame.... And this, "When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately. It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism." I never had a problem with any other creator purchasing an accessory I needed for something that was not bought from them. Oh well, guess he only wants limited business... Shaking head in disbelief.......wtf
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