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Stephen Long Inner circle 1481 Posts |
My friends and I went to see the 12:01(am)showing of this on Thursday morning.
Opinion was divided. The hard core Star Wars fans had not a bad word to say about it and were quite dumbfounded. Conversely, the fans of the old school Star Wars could not criticise it enough. For those who are big fans of Episodes 4, 5, and 6, it is terribly hard to believe that what is being seen on the screen is a prequel. It is most definately worth seeing if only for the fact that one gets to see Yoda in action with a light saber. :lol: Anyone here seen it yet? What did you think? Stephen
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Dan Watkins Inner circle PA 3028 Posts |
I am a Star Wars fan. Read many of the subsequent novels as well.
I really enjoyed the film. The whole thing fleshes out how the Emperor deceives everyone in his rise to power, you can also see Anakin slipping to the dark side. Did you happen to notice after Anakin's night with the Tusken raiders, when he was standing outside, with his shadow cast on one of the sand huts, it looked like Vader's profile? Thought that was pretty neat use of subtle foreshadowing. I would be willing to bet how the Emporer is going to turn Anakin - he's going to use the exact same tactic he used on Luke in ROTJ. Yoda is the man. Definate highlight of the film that would never have been possible before CGI. When he limped around the corner on his little stick, you know somebody was going to get their butt kicked, I just had no idea how cool it would be. Yea, its hard to beat that chemistry between Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewy - but AOTC had a good story, and great action and special effects. I enjoyed it. I could see however how someone who has not seen any Star Wars films could feel a little lost during all the political parts. |
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4694 Posts |
The major weakness in the film is the horrible dialogue and stilted acting in the "romantic" scenes between Anakin and Amidala.
George can't write a decent love scene, and he certainly can't direct one. Of course, when I heard audience members loudly laughing and snickering during those scenes, my first thought was regarding the irony that most in attendance were guys in their mid-30's who still lived in their parents' basements, and had never been with a girl... :evilgrin:
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Mack Magic Loyal user The Burgh' Pittsburgh, PA 268 Posts |
I'm VERY proud to say that it was pretty good. I was just hoping it was better than the Phantom Menace which I didn't like too much, and it was. To see Yoda in action was worth to see the movie by itself!
Yoda and also Jango Fett with his son Boba Fett was also cool to see. They were definately my fav. characters in this Episode.I'm glad Jar Jar Binks didn't have a big part in the movie this time. I give it a thumbs up.
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Reian Regular user Hawaii 117 Posts |
I thought the very beginning and parts throughout the movie looked fake. Of course it's a movie but I mean the graphics. In the beginning where that ship went boom boom, it reminded me of the graphics from my Dreamcast games and Playstation games. It was like cardboard. But that's what I get from a total green screen movie. All the acting went into the romance scene which was fun to make side comments during the movie. I bet Amidala doesnt even know Anakin's birthday or shoe size, yet she says those 3 magic words.
Yoda scene, the best. Two words was said by the whole audience when he whips his robe and flashes his saber, "Oh ***!" |
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P T Flea Regular user Engelfield Green, nr Staines - innit 194 Posts |
Natalie portman was looking pretty good!
I agree that some of the Romantic scence were painfully slow and awkward. I was a bit disappointed with the amount of CGI. I don't know if you guys noticed but nearly the entire film was CGI based. There were scenes with individual clones that could have easily been played with an actor to bring a little more realism into it. CGI graphics are getting better but you can still spot 'em when it's in your face. All in all thumbs up, although I think Lucas has tried to cram a little too much story line into one film. PT
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Andini Special user Columbus, OH 685 Posts |
Funny, I just got back a few hours ago from seeing it. It was very good! I really enjoyed.
I agree with everyone about the Yoda scene. That was excellent! I had heard that he fought and the minute he whipped out that saber, I got pretty excited. I don't remember the profile but on that same note, I noticed something interesting. In the same shadow scene, you see the profiles on the wall thing. But when the camera backs away, the shadows are NOT on the wall! I was proud of my keen eye. It was excellent all in all. |
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Jimmy Lee Special user Singapore 682 Posts |
I am a 70s baby and naturally Star Wars is my kind of thingy!
I am a fan too! But after watching EII, somehow, it is not as "wow" as 4, 5 & 6. I do not know what is missing. But I am not critical. I enjoyed the movie too! I will wait for all the DVDs to be release and get them all at a go! May the force be with all the magicians here!
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Jeb Sherrill Inner circle Elsewhere 1161 Posts |
I just saw it a few nights ago and I must admit I had little good to say. As others have already said, the dialogue was just the other side of terrible, the "romance" (if one can call it that), seemed about as real as the effects and to be quite honest I almost went to sleep watching horrendous cuts. The conveyor belt scene looked like a hundred video games I'd played before and even the action bored me because I never got to really care for any of the characters. I know I'll be in the vast minority for this one, but I really didn't like the Yoda fight scene either. I'd always wanted to see Yoda fight and I like the general concept, but Yoda's gunfighter pose and kung fu pose, killed it for me. It just wasn't in character with Yoda's sage persona. He also looked like he was going to have a hernia moving that falling object, this coming from a Jedi master who lifted an x-wing out of the water in Empire just by lifting a finger.
I'm a huge fan of the original three, and I feel nothing less than betrayed by Lucas. What was he thinking? Sable
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Stephen Long Inner circle 1481 Posts |
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On 2002-05-27 16:45, Jeb Sherrill wrote: This concerned me somewhat as well, Sable. What was it he said in Empire? Something like "size matters not"? Therefore he should be able to move that large falling thing just as easily as he picks up his walking stick at the end. Quote:
I'm a huge fan of the original three, and I feel nothing less than betrayed by Lucas. What was he thinking? I think the thing is that he realizes he now has an audience to cater for. In 4, 5, and 6, I get the impression he was making the movies for himself rather than for the masses. Now I feel the scenario has vice-versa'd itself, so to speak. Which is a shame. And the bit with C3PO's head?? What was going on there? It just wasn't funny... Ah well... Stephen :coolspot:
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P T Flea Regular user Engelfield Green, nr Staines - innit 194 Posts |
Yes Steve I totally agree about the head thing, the corners of my mouth did not even twitch. Actually, I think I did laugh, but it was one of the those moments where you are laughing at the script rather than with it.
In fact, come to think of it I can't remember anything that made me laugh, oh apart from maybe the part where Amidala was stuck in that pot and about to get molten metal poured on her. Not really, I'm not that twisted. The funniest part of the film was probably Yoda fighting and in particular him striking his 'Matrix-like' Kung Fu pose before hand. PT
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Jeb Sherrill Inner circle Elsewhere 1161 Posts |
Yeah, I really had to wonder about the head thing. There were several parts where I knew Lucas was trying to be funny, but...well...he just wasn't. Then of course the serious scenes were hilarious.
This got me too. C3PO and R2D2 are on the Tatuine (sp?), hanging out with Anakin (who supposedly made C3PO) and the future Aunte and Uncle of Luke Skywalker. Yet in Star Wars, Uncle Owen doesn't remember the duo, nor do they recognize them. You might also think that C3PO might know his creator was Darth Vader and tell Luke or something. All this could be explained by their memories being erased, or somethng else just as silly, but c'mon; it's a stretch. It's like Lucas just keeps forgetting his other movies. I shall never forgive Lucas for this one. Sable PS They should try and fit Yoda into Matrix III. (Just kidding)
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Daniel Meadows Veteran user Manchester, UK 392 Posts |
Well I just got back and I really enjoyed it. I loved spotting all the little touches that were from the other films. The cantina arm chopping, the Chancellor's chair, Sebulba in the taxi, Padme's hair, Anakin's hand...and so on.
My only problem with the continuity was the droids and Owen, which has been mentioned above, but at the end of the day I went to the cinema to be entertained and I was. End of story. A Lucas success.
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Daniel Meadows Veteran user Manchester, UK 392 Posts |
Ok I may have come up with a solution for the droid thing. I just went and discussed the matter with a friend and between us there isn't that much that we haven't covered book-wise.
Surely all C-3PO and R2 units will look the same? It is some years later in Episode4 and Owen may have had countless droids since so they may have had a few similar droids previously. Also, I am fairly sure that they both get their memories wiped because the last master they remember is Antilles. This would explain why the droids would not recognize Owen and Beru. Is this a valid excuse?
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P T Flea Regular user Engelfield Green, nr Staines - innit 194 Posts |
It might be a valid excuse if I could follow what you are talking about. You guys lost me back at the bit about the heads.
Sorry who is C3PO? He's the golden one with the slightly dodgy voice right?
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Daniel Meadows Veteran user Manchester, UK 392 Posts |
Yeah C-3PO is golden in films 4,5 and 6 but in 1 he doesn't have any plating and in 2 he is just a dull metallic colour as opposed to being golden.
And R2-D2 is the dustbin on wheels. Who mysteriously has rocket attachments that he never used previously(I mean in later films) when it would have come in really handy, but oh well.
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Andy Leviss Inner circle NYC 1179 Posts |
I gotta say, I was a "virgin" when I saw ep. 2 (yes, I'm the one living person who has never seen a complete Star Wars movie, although I've seen bits and pieces of the first (second?) three), and I thought it was pretty darn good. I knew enough to get some of the jokes and references, but I'm sure there are tons more to be gotten once I see the other four. Eventually, I suppose...
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Steve Brooks Founder / Manager Northern California - United States 3780 Posts |
I am a hard core Star Wars fan, and I thought Episode Two rocked! Lucas once again proves you can entertain folks without a lot of profanity, nudity or gross death scenes.
I've seen it twice now, and like all Star Wars films, each viewing reveals more and more details that Lucas is so good at delivering. Just my two cents.
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Bernard Sim Inner circle Singapore 1095 Posts |
Just saw Episode II today. It was not too bad but I like Episode I more.
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P T Flea Regular user Engelfield Green, nr Staines - innit 194 Posts |
Yes Bernard, I share your opinion, although everyone I have spoken to about it reckons that II was better. I think they need to re-watch I. I think the plot was better. It didn't seem like such a packed film. Darth Maul was great as well!
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