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Craig Petty
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Lucky I don't have a gig tonight so I can be on stand by to answer peoples questions!

Of course nappy changes might change that at a moments notice!

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On 2012-11-24 15:15, Zombie Magic wrote:
I go by gut feelings on things and I have such a great one about FOB.

Craig, does David Penn do the teaching on the DVD? I have his Executive Wallet and Hypno Aces and his thinking on routines, audience management, etc. is always gold. I got the Executive Wallet just to get the DVD, that's how good I think he is.

Yes, his teaching is excellent. I have his 21st Century Toppit, Coinvexed 1 & 2, Hypno Aces, Bottle Production, Lecture and street magic DVDs and I learnt a lot from his teaching beyond just the tricks he was presenting.
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I personally cant wait. LookS way more natural than light.
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The problem with Light is that the switch of the card is done as the card is taken out the lighter.

With FOB the switch is done as the cover is taken off the fob. Once this is done the card appears to be in the same position but is now switched. This allows the spectator to take the card out or for you to take it out very cleanly. In other words the switch is done on the off beat - during the actual removal of the card you are clean.

Of course I'm not saying The Light is bad - I'm just pointing out what I believe to be an advantage with fob

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That is super clean production on the demo, hats off. The effect looks just as good. For those who feel the way the FOB is "handled" when doing the "move" or "cover" isn't natural. I feel its all in the presentation, Dave does it in one swift motion. No stopping, then hands it to the spec to unfold without missing a beat. That's how it should be done. Truly endless possibilities. Well done World Magic Shop.
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I believe like anything else it is attitude, taking off the fob looks fine to me, I'll be getting this for a closer to my ambitious.
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I can see exactly what is going on with this, and I think it is great! I love this type of thing. The retention of vision is excellent. No one is going to think about what's in your hand when you pull the cover off. We as magicians are always looking for the "move". Laymen will not. The card is the focus, and it should be for you as well.

While nothing will take the place for my mystery box, I'll definitely add this to my arsenal for variety. I really like this.

And both Dave and Craig, thank you for your contributions to the magic world. You guys help to keep it exciting for the rest of us. Well done.
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I have to completely disagree with everyone who says it is unnatural. I think the move is SO natural that it's throwing you off. In all honesty, if you where trying to slide a cover off of something in day to day life and it was a little slick, you would probably do something VERY similar to what Dave is doing to get it off. Just because he doesn't slide it only using his index finger and thumb in an overly showy and "watch me as I just take the cover off" way -- doesn't mean it is unnatural.

Just my two cents.
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My blood's not boiling. Smile While it seems like there are some similarities, my gut tells me that this is a little different than Fresh Mint in its workings. how much, I have no idea. Like I said before, looks good to me!
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Can we just confirm that the trailer is accurate? The fob is removed, and instantly the cover can be shown empty and your hands empty apart from the fob with their card in it as per 2mins30secs in the trailer??
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On 2012-11-24 19:17, lukecloughmagic wrote:
Can we just confirm that the trailer is accurate? The fob is removed, and instantly the cover can be shown empty and your hands empty apart from the fob with their card in it as per 2mins30secs in the trailer??

Not instantly, no.
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My blood's not boiling. Smile While it seems like there are some similarities, my gut tells me that this is a little different than Fresh Mint in its workings. how much, I have no idea. Like I said before, looks good to me!

I'm glad you're cool with it Cameron. That's why you're one of the most respected creators around.
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So the trailer portrays something that cannot be done? e clearly takes the cover off, takes the card out, with both hands empty and then puts the cover back on again having shown both hands empty???
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In the specific case you're referring to he hadn't l***** a c*** behind the gimmick. So it could look that clean in the trailer but not in a real life situation with a signed card.
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At least they can never criticise anyone again for showing inaccurate trailers then... this is what I hate about effects, showing you something that is different to what it actually is.
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I guess Dave could make the argument that the trailer represents what the spectator will remember rather than what actually happens.
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Jamie can I ask how you can answer specific questions about fob without ever having seen it? You make sweeping statements about Cameron designed to cause trouble and now you answer questions as if you know the answer - you don't.

Like I said you are funny Jamie,
. You do make me laugh - and thanks for that.

Luke my advice to you mate is don't buy FOB. Earlier on you talked about how the demo looked unnatural and that you prefer The Light. So you obviously have something you are happy with that does the same effect and you clearly don't like the way fob handles. I think buying it would be a waste of money for you as you clearly wouldn't use it.

Cameron, I'm going to pm you if I can, I know you will love fob!

Everyone else thanks for the kind words on behalf of Dave. I wish I'd have invented the bloody thing!!!

Oh and to answer Luke's question (again) there is a handling on the DVD that allows the hands to be shown empty except for just the card the second the cover is removed. However the focus is never on the cover so this it not an issue. You must have missed me answer that question early Luke, but then again it is late.

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If the signed card be extracted as cleanly as the video shows at 2.30, without additional byplay that is not featured on the trailer, then I will send you a cheque for triple the price you're asking for one unit, as that's what I think it would be worth.

My chequebook and pen is in hand. I await with bated breath.
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I've just rewatched the trailer at the 2.30 mark. What you see there is the handling I spoke about. That entire sequence is totally possible with fob and it does look that clean. With that handling you remove the cover, flash it in the other hand, take out the switched card and put everything away.

Does that answer your question Jamie? Or would you like to talk some more about how you know everything about how this effect is done?

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Looks fantastic. That's all I have to say.
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