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willwatt
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While Antony Gerard was lecturing in Paris-France, he mentioned MKS, talking about the great work of Thierry. That reason was good enough for me to contact him ASAP. I have met a guy really passionate about his work : you can tell just the way he talks about coin magic, and the feeling increased when you see his work... I gave him all my confidence for my graal that I do perform with, and it is a 100% satisfaction... As a profesional magician I am ready to pay twice the price if it is good materials !
A professional magician also knows that a price worth the professional work... It is the same with coins... There is no point about talking of something so specific until you've triyed it, experienced it. And even if it doesn't fit you doesn't mean it's not good...
Talking about magic props, we all can pay if we calculated the price of all those props we have sleeping in drawers...
By the way, I believe that the fact that MKS is part of the dealers of the European Coins Symposium from the beginning if I'm right, that he is part of I.B.M and that he will be at F.F.F.F. 2013 is enough to give the minimum respect his work deserve... If you don't respect him please respect all those mentioned before who's decisions are estimated in the magician's community...
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Generate erroneous assumptions about the unknown is really sad and can reassure some of that already possess it is what is best, and they made the right choice.

I just hope that your eyes will be able to enjoy my work and will make you think again about some of preconceived ideas

Thanks to the nice feed back of a few of my customers here Smile

I've been happy to talk a little of me, of my gaffs, and I wish you all a HAPPY NEW YEAR
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Possibly you missed my important question. In case you did, here it is again.

What design/method are you using for the internal band in your gravity flippers?

And could you possibly show a picture of the inside of one of your flippers?

I am familiar with the other 2 makers' take on this, and would like to compare yours. Since you are so eager to post lots of other pictures of your coins, it should be an easy task for you. Would you mind?
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Polygons,

Have other gaff makers ever published photos of the inner workings of their flippers? If they have, I've never seen them.

And what difference does it make? AFAIK there are no patents on flipper internals - at least I can't find any by searching the USPTO. So IMO it doesn’t matter what the inside of the MKS flipper looks like.

Jim
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Polygons,
buy one my friend!
And you'll see it.
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On 2013-01-09 01:32, J-Mac wrote:
Have other gaff makers ever published photos of the inner workings of their flippers? If they have, I've never seen them.



Here's a few:
http://toddlassen.com/commercial/?page_id=352
http://coolotis.wordpress.com/2012/12/10......era-328/

Now none show the angle of the groove if that;s what he's looking for
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Polygons, I haven't forget to respond to your question.

But like I've say here, I just don't wanna talk you more . that's all.
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Of course you don't wanna talk me more. Because I have reason to suspect you copied from other makers. But a simple picture, like the other makers have provided, would force me to apologize and go away. If you are not copying from other makers, I have no beef with you at all. I still wouldn't send my money to France when we have makers that are way ahead of the game here.
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Polygons - what exactly is your problem?

It you don't like the coins produced by this guy, then don't buy them - it's as simple as that.

And whilst you are on the 'moral high ground' maybe you could enlighten us with the name of the one coin manufacturer that HAS had the integrity to offer Bob Swadling payment for manufacturing his creation - 'The Flipper Coin', without his permission? I will give you one clue - this well-known coin manufacturer WASN'T an American; well, not a North American anyway.

So the next time one particular guy (who has the habit of placing his coins on top of poker dice) goes off on one of his poisonous little diatribes, maybe we should all visit his blog and ask exactly when HE got Swadling's permission to manufacture flippers? Smile

To reiterate what I said above; if you don't like what Magikoins produce, then don't buy them. However, your posts are now bordering on HARRASSMENT and, if I'm perfectly honest, are getting just a little boring.

Time to jog on old chap.
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I think Mr.LAssen in person hiding behind the pseudonym PolygonsMagic ...

I could be wrong, but ..
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On 2013-01-12 12:11, polygonsmagic wrote:
I still wouldn't send my money to France when we have makers that are way ahead of the game here.


Then don't send!! You know there are also European magicians on this site! And people who don't care where the manufacturer comes from. They only care about how good his work is..
Searching for the magic side of life...
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On 2013-01-13 04:02, magikoins wrote:
I think Mr.LAssen in person hiding behind the pseudonym PolygonsMagic ...

I could be wrong, but ..


I don't think it is Lassen, but I can understand why you think that.

After all, if you check Polygons posts in the last 30 days, he has made 10 in total. Two of these were selling an item for himself and the other EIGHT are ALL contained within this thread. 'Magicians helping Magicians', or simply an 'axe to grind'?

So Polygons, if you are a friend of Lassen, I reiterate my earlier question. Please ask Todd when he got the agreement from Bob Swadling to manufacture flipper coins?
Barry Allen

"The Rules of the Sleight-of-Hand Artist, are three and all others are vain; the first and second are 'practice', and the third one is 'practice again'.

Edward Victor 1936
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Seems like both parties don't want to answer the tough questions.
Misdirect yourself regularly before you attempt to misdirect others!!! Smile Smile Smile
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He is not Lassen. I've purchased from both Lassen and Polygon - different areas of the country.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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OK SO! Magikoins answer polygons queastion and show us all a picture of the cut on the flipper you make to satisfy polygons. Polygons answer Merc Mans question of

And whilst you are on the 'moral high ground' maybe you could enlighten us with the name of the one coin manufacturer that HAS had the integrity to offer Bob Swadling payment for manufacturing his creation - 'The Flipper Coin', without his permission?

If neither of you do or answer either question, then both of you need to shut up and put all this childish BS to rest!
Misdirect yourself regularly before you attempt to misdirect others!!! Smile Smile Smile
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About the cut-on, it's like the Wheel..; noone can invent it again.

2 methods exists, and I use one of them.
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I am not sure there are only two variations, but assuming there are only two and Swadling invented one of them, I guess that means that Lassen developed the other method, no?
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For me 2 variations :

First one : rubberband inside
Second one : rubberband lateral
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"About the cut-on, it's like the Wheel..; noone can invent it again.

2 methods exists, and I use one of them."

Exactly. Jamie uses his glued together L shaped design, and Lassen uses his supposedly patented angled groove design.

Which maker did you "borrow" from?
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MercMan, I think if you search for old posts from the late Werner Seitz, either here or on Genii board, you may find that Swadling was not "the man" on flipper coins. He was predated. I forget who the orgiginal guy was, but I remember reading that.

I think Johnson was the first to start making them stateside, they had them before any other maker in U.S. Johnson is also reputed to have "borrowed" Presley Guitar's CSB, with initials "PG" still visible in the knockoff Chinese characters, and at that time Presley's version with a hole in it was inspired by Connie Hayden's very original 2 copper/ 1 silver gaff.

As a side note, which may or may not be related: Did anyone read the article on copying in this month's Genii? I agree with much of it. But basically, I think part of the point was, you are supposed to "improve" existing effects and use them for inspiration for new things, not just copy them for profit.
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