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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-12-07 17:21, Slide wrote: I've known a couple.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-12-07 16:16, LobowolfXXX wrote: Eeeewwww! I thought you were better than that, Lobo. Get rid of that awful "on a <fill in your favorite adjective> basis" construction and use an adverb. Adverbs are your friends: . . . arbitrarily, and item by item. ;) |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-12-07 17:28, S2000magician wrote: Hemingway didn't trust 'em, so I don't trust 'em!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
"We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone."
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
The problems with marijuana is that the stuff on the streets today is not the same stuff that was on the streets 30, even 20 years ago. The mid 90's saw a change in the potency of the product. And I am sure that everyone stoner here will back up their point with some scientific argument and I can provide an argument that states the opposite. From my experience, I have never seen anything good stem from the use marijuana or any illegal drug. Then... there is the abuse of perscription drugs, which is a whole other issue.
There is also a difference between sneakers and pot and Lobo, you know that. I've never seen a person stoned out of his mind and passed out at a stop light because he was wearing Air Jordans. As for not needing Slide's business, I have another job, my main job, that doesn't allow me to be concerned whether or not he buys an invisible deck from us, in fact, the store is just a very small part of that particular business. Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Certainly there's a difference between pot and sneakers; I was simply commenting on the "People commit crimes to get it" argument.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Dreadnought
The street pot around here was $5 for a nickle bag in 1965, and it had the power to give you the munchies and enjoy listening to music. The street pot in 2012 cost $400 an ounce and it has the power to give you the munchies, and enjoy listening to music. Dreadnought the potency, or price of pot has nothing to do with the overall effects. You know in the 1930's they said "one puff and you'll want to kill your mother" Please stop telling baseless stories. Now who is talking about something they really know very little about?
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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longhaired1 Veteran user Salida 316 Posts |
As the population ages, more of us can compare our personal experience on the subject with the Reefer Madness'esque anecdotes from the Mean Streets, some of which we have witnessed on this thread. We see and know of thousands of people who hold steady jobs, own businesses, raise families, run for public office etc. who have used this herb in the past or continue to do so without having it destroy their lives. Fortunately the laws in many states are beginning to reflect this trend towards sanity on the subject.
Personally, I find it amusing when people refer to the "prohibition era" as a thing of past. Setting aside Supercop's glorious anecdotes of people shooting each other with bazookas just to get a hit, the fact remains; The prohibition of herb has caused far more damage and destroyed far more lives than the effects of the use of herb. |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
Over the last few years, law enforcement officers have seen a rise in synthetic marijuana or engineered strands of marijuana being grown and manufactured here and in other countries. The weed that is, for the most part, out on the street now contains THC levels that are almost 20 times more than what was in the pot in the 70's and 80's and can be potentially harmful to children in the womb or so says the Center for Genetic and Environmental Medicine at Texas A&M University. But I am sure since you are the enlightened one, you know more than a bunch of university professors. So, carry on, and apparently in your stoned state you had trouble spelling Seattle.
Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
That's funny. What you call syntheticly engineered the rest of us call it selective breeding. Please stop you are making me laugh. The selective breeding makes for stronger more expensive pot that has the exact same effect as the weaker stuff from long ago had.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
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On 2012-12-07 23:12, longhaired1 wrote: That last part is not a fact. As I said earlier, I can find as many experts that will say the opposite. I suppose that following your logic, if pot is legalized, then people will stop being "Destroyed" by it. Also, how do you determine who ws hurt by the prohibition and who was hurt by the effects? So, where do you err, on the side of caution or the side of risk? And more importantly where do you draw the line? Do you legalize just marijuana or do you legalize other drugs or all drugs? I say again, if marijuana is legalized, why not heroin, why not meth, why not cocaine? I am well aware that there are those that have toked, snorted and injected everything and anything and have gone on to be doctors, lawyers and everything else. Just as there are those who are raging alcoholics and have gone on to lead very productive. There are even those who beat their wives on a regular basis and have gone on to lead super productive lives. But I have seen at least, as many who have not. Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
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On 2012-12-07 23:26, Al Angello wrote: No, it doesn't Al. Where is your proof. Very rarily, if ever have I ever entertained an argument from you because, well... you really make no argument other than just run off at the mouth with nothing of any substance. Not once during this entire discussion have you offered anything intelligent. Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
My proof is the good voters of both Colorado, and Washington state. Your opinions is based on prejudices from the past, and is rapidly becoming a minority opinion. Why do you need to step on other people's rights?
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
First, my opinions are not based on prejudices from the past, unless you are talking about my personal experiences. Secondly, I don't recall anywhere in the U.S. Constitution that says one has the right to smoke hooch. So, please enlighten me.
Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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longhaired1 Veteran user Salida 316 Posts |
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On 2012-12-07 23:39, Dreadnought wrote: You are on the wrong side of history on this issue. The trend is towards decriminalization and legalization. A more sane approach to the issue as I said before. Perhaps you can tell us about the marijuana overdoses you saw in your law enforcement career. |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
Also Al, your proof is not proof that selective breeding has not raised the THC level.
Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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longhaired1 Veteran user Salida 316 Posts |
Sorry. Hate to double reply to a post, but...
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On 2012-12-07 23:39, Dreadnought wrote: Just to be clear. Of the 100+ million Americans who have tried cannabis, you estimate 50 million had their lives destroyed from it? You state "at least as many did not (go on to lead productive lives)". I think your numbers are way off... |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
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On 2012-12-08 00:22, longhaired1 wrote: Again, where is your evidence, besides your saying that I am on the wrong side of history. I haven't seen anyone OD on marijuana. In fact, I never saw anyone OD on any drug. I have seen the effects of gang warfare over turf battles being waged over distribution. And I'm sure you'll say that was because of crimilization. And you may be right, but narcotics distribution is more than just marijuana. I have also seen two traffic fatalities, both of which showed no alcohol but THC levels. As a traffic officer, I have also arrested two people for driving under the influence of marijuana. There were the burglaries, the assaults, disturbing the peace the list goes on. Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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longhaired1 Veteran user Salida 316 Posts |
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On 2012-12-08 00:23, Dreadnought wrote: Outside of the fetal health issue, something that this 50 year old male doesn't really have to worry about (what with the lack of womb), how has this increase in potency affected the user? Are more Funyuns being consumed? Or are people getting all hopped up on this superdope and shooting each other with bazookas? |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
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On 2012-12-08 00:28, longhaired1 wrote: I didn't claim to see 100 million people. I said, of the ones I have seen. Which means, of those who I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that smoked weed who went on to lead productive lives, there were as many that did not. I will say that those in this thread that have stated they are users and those who have not said it but obviously are, I will say that I have seen more that have used and are not the happy, productive citizens. Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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