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pbj100 Special user 516 Posts |
Hi Walt, I am sure that you are correct and audiences do take things away from the shows , this is why I said I make no effort to teach, I am sure every experience has some influence , I also think that many magicians would like to believe they have far more influence than they actualy do , I to have as you put it stood the test of time being full time pro for over 30 years and raising 5 children. With my partner Louise . Phil
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magicgeorge Inner circle Belfast 4299 Posts |
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On 2012-12-15 14:00, SpellbinderEntertainment wrote: Does this mean you only fart in bathrooms? I'd find that rather inconvenient so I parp away in every room in the house. Farts aren't funny. They're hilarious! Unless you set them on fire. Then they're awesome. |
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pbj100 Special user 516 Posts |
Hence the saying George
Where ever you be let your wind blow free church or chapel leave it rattle |
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Kameron Messmer Special user Billings, MT 742 Posts |
Lets change this up a little. I have a balloon trick I'm working on, and the sound of a balloon releasing air is similar to a fart sound. The sound by itself is funny on its own. Is the sound itself offensive? If it is not at all associated with a fart, is it appropriate then?
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
Kameron, it all depends on the type of audience you have, with the way you present it.
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Walt makes a great point:
"One more short comment. Our job, by nature and design, is to entertain. However, when entertaining (children especially) whether we know it or not, like it or not, we are also educating." We are also being JUDGED, as to whether or not "we're the real deal"...... People will remember the character that you, as an entertainer leave in their minds. My personal preference is to leave a legacy with those kids and adults who saw me that says "Wow. That guy was a REAL magician...I've seen different people doing tricks........but this guy....wow...he was, well...A REAL HONEST-TO-GOODNESS MAGICIAN....and (this is best of all)...NOW THAT I'VE SEEN A REAL MAGICIAN I WANT TO SEE HIM AGAIN>>>AND SEE MORE REAL MAGICIANS JUST LIKE HIM". My philosophy of performing Magic is to give my audiences something special: Entertainment built around wonder and amazement...relating to the audiences in a fun, friendly way and having them like YOU and what YOU do.... |
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David Marcus New user 3,375.97 miles outside of Paris, France. 81 Posts |
Kameron,
You mentioned once or twice that you don't care for fart jokes or find them funny. You also said (something like) there is so much more you could do without resorting to fart jokes. It would seem to me that you've answered your own question about whether you should do them. Several years ago, John Blake of East Coast Magic gave me the idea of using the old "stuffed animal peeing in a lota bowl" trick. I did that one for three years and it went over great, Even teachers laughed at it... until one day I got the "bright" idea of using the water I rinsed my Incrediball with. It was at an element.ry school, one where I did the same joke with plain water prior to then. I got so many complaints from that I took the whole routine out my show and haven't done it since. It sucks because I had a killer routine with it too. I've no right to tell what to do. I don't do fart jokes, or pee jokes anymore, or anything similar. I do use a diaper but only when I go to bed.
“Next to music, beer was best.” - Carson McCullers
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tbaer Inner circle Pennsylvania 2003 Posts |
I can't even believe this fart topic is now 3 pages long and members keep chiming in every day. I personally wouldn't have fart jokes or gags when performing, but having said that, if someone else was performing and I was sitting in the audience and the magician had a fart gag, it sure would make me laugh.
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cwbny Loyal user 211 Posts |
Not that it really offers a ton of insight into this topic, but I came across this interesting article. Gassy humor is mentioned twice. Warning: other more adult risqué subjects also mentioned...
http://www.cracked.com/article_20102_5-d......ilm.html Enjoy! |
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Kameron Messmer Special user Billings, MT 742 Posts |
Just because I don't find fart jokes funny doesn't mean I don't see why others find it funny. I want to cater to my audience, not just my tastes. Plus I'm not 7. I enjoy documentaries and theology books. My audience likes fart jokes. Just saying. lol.
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
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On 2012-12-14 21:32, Dynamike wrote: Love the ad copy at that link: "MANY ONLINE STORES ARE OUT OF STOCK OF FART MACHINES AND WILL SEND YOU A BACKORDER EMAIL SEVERAL DAYS AFTER YOU PLACE YOUR ORDER BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF FART MACHINES IN STOCK AND WILL SHIP YOUR ORDER THE NEXT OR SAME BUSINESS DAY BY US PRIORITY MAIL" So you know you're in good hands when it's an emergency and every minute counts.
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magicgeorge Inner circle Belfast 4299 Posts |
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On 2012-12-19 19:37, Kameron Messmer wrote: This is an interesting point. I've always agreed with the theory of 'Do what you find funny' but there are lots of things we do that aren't especially funny/entertaining for adults. Having said that I think the best bits of my show are the parts everyone laughs at. Adults find physical comedy funny if done well or can appreciate look/don't see if you layer it with comedy for them too. I guess you need to find the line between catering for your audience and pandering to them. You mentioned parping a balloon earlier. I do do this in my show. I get around the fact it's silly kids humour by pointing it out. I'll stop look at a boy about 7 or 8 and go "here's some humour right on your level" then do the parp. The adults find it funny because I've acknowledged the fact it's low brow humour. I sometimes follow it up with the line "I'd say you'd grow out of that kind of thing but your dad laughed pretty hard so maybe not" |
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David Marcus New user 3,375.97 miles outside of Paris, France. 81 Posts |
Kameron,
It seems I have insulted you. I apologize. You asked for opinions and I offered mine. That's all I meant to do. Dave
“Next to music, beer was best.” - Carson McCullers
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magicgeorge Inner circle Belfast 4299 Posts |
I don't think you insulted anyone, David.
I was actually going to say the same as you ie if you don't find it funny then don't do it but Kameron's response made me think a bit more about it. Conflicting opinions reasonably stated are always good and help us to see both sides of things. |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
For some reason this threads stinks.
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Kameron Messmer Special user Billings, MT 742 Posts |
Im not offended at all! No worries, David. This has been one of the more civilized discussions on the Café I have seen.
Not everything I do in my kids show is something I would enjoy. Most of it is, but some things make them laugh and that makes me happy. The fart thing seems to be something I could make as funny as I could. I like this thread. As much as it may stink... I don't want to resort to easy, low brow humor, but I don't want to discount something I have never done because it's not my personal thing. When I worked in a magic shop selling whoopee cushions or electronic whoopee cushions, people would try it and laugh their heads off. I thought this was immature, but done with better comedic timing or a good line, maybe it could work... There is one "toilet joke" I use... I tell the kids "To make this trick work you have to concentrate! Show me your concentrating faces!" They proceed to squish their faces until they look constipated. I point at a random kid and say "You look like you have to poo, are you ok?" No one has gotten upset or embarrassed, and it gets laughs... |
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David Marcus New user 3,375.97 miles outside of Paris, France. 81 Posts |
Thanks Kameron, and you too George. I appreciate your responses.
I will confess something if you promise no one else will know. (I know no one can see this except just us ) I love the Whoopee Cushion. I used to put one under Grandma's seat at our huge family Christmas gathering. She'd sit on it and yell, "Daaavvvvviiiiiid! You little fart!" We did that every year from when I was about 10 until almost 40, when she died. Since then, on our Christmas tree is Grandma's Whoopee Cushion.
“Next to music, beer was best.” - Carson McCullers
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mr shiney Loyal user 266 Posts |
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On 2012-12-20 13:32, David Marcus wrote: love it if its good enough for grandma it's good enough of me. I'm just glad most people can see its just abit of harmless fun. |
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Ken Northridge Inner circle Atlantic City, NJ 2392 Posts |
I don't have much to add to this thread except to say that I don't use fart jokes in my show. In fact, I don't think I've ever told a fart joke or referenced a fart in anyway to anyone in my life! I guess that makes me a prude, but whatever. Life is funny enough without resorting to this. I feel the same way about profanity for adults.
I am contracted to do some shows for a friend of mine in schools every year. This year he has included Timmy Toilet Paper to his show and I really don't like that either. There, now I'm definitely a prude just in case you weren't sure. Seriously, if its within your personality to use potty humor go for it. I don't think you'll be banned for life from entertaining children. I've seen it done and thought it was funny. Its just not for me.
"Love is the real magic." -Doug Henning
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
Kameron is from Montana. He never gets offended.
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