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Dennis Loomis
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http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y387......7752.jpg

A link to one of the Joe Smiley publicity pieces.

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To Matt,
Dick Oslund discusses both the Crystal Casket and the Crystal Box in his post. (Blackstone leaning against the proscenium.)

These two items are easily confused as are the two versions of the Bird Cage Vanish. (The small one done by Blackstone, and the large one done by Channing Pollock.)

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On 2013-01-23 10:21, Dennis Loomis wrote:
To Matt,
Dick Oslund discusses both the Crystal Casket and the Crystal Box in his post. (Blackstone leaning against the proscenium.)

These two items are easily confused as are the two versions of the Bird Cage Vanish. (The small one done by Blackstone, and the large one done by Channing Pollock.)

Dennis Loomis


Ah I see what he did there - called it a box versus a casket. Sigh...words are hard. lol.

Cool info anyway. Dick always has interesting stories to tell.
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I have the same photo Dennis of Joe Smiley. One thing about Joe, he did not travel light. He carried a lot of livestock and props.

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From my Otto Mauer's Catalog of Apparatus and Illusions, circa 1884, there are several versions of the hand held crystal (glass boxes) for the production of silks, balls and a bird. There is also the Miraculous Crystal Chest where the performer is placed inside a sealed crystal chest escapes. Additional description says "many other marvelous experiments can be performed with this chest."
Possibly the production of a lovely lady? Price $175.00, a fair amount in 1884.
While not naming this specific effect, this illusion is discussed in Illustrated Magic by Fischer, using boxes etc. with a special table. No names as to the origin.

So the glass box can be used for appearances, a vanish or an escape?
Or even a lady to tiger?
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This Plexiglass Box Escape was made for me by Thornapple Magic of Wellsboro, PA. This shot was made many, many years ago. I'm 69 years old today and about the only escape I still do is the Thumb Cuffs.

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Will Goldston describes a similar effect in his book Stage Illusions, pg. 14, using a trunk for the appearance of a young lady. He also adds that plate glass can be substituted for the trunk (1910).Get a copy here:
http://openlibrary.org/works/OL410115W/Stage_illusions
Albert Hopkins also describes the trunk illusion, also substituting plate glass in his book, Magic: Stage Illusions and Diversions (1897). He has several names for the trick, The Mysterious Trunk; Indian trunk and Packers Surprise.

In the Gamages catalog, 1924, London, you can buy the trick for 70 pounds. They have several versions using trunks, enclosed canopies, and the substitution of a small case with a doll into a large trunk with a lady inside (enclosed briefly by a canopy).

It seems that trying to pinpoint the origin of the glass casket and the appearance of the young lady is an impossible task when you think about all the effects that have come after and before using a special platform, sliding panels, hiding on the edge, and so on. Using glass panels before the age of lightweight plexiglass must have been burdensome as far as breakage and weight.
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Will Goldston describes a similar effect in his book Stage Illusions, pg. 14, using a trunk for the appearance of a young lady. He also adds that plate glass can be substituted for the trunk (1910).Get a copy here:
http://openlibrary.org/works/OL410115W/Stage_illusions
Albert Hopkins also describes the trunk illusion, also substituting plate glass in his book, Magic: Stage Illusions and Diversions (1897). He has several names for the trick, The Mysterious Trunk; Indian trunk and Packers Surprise.

In the Gamages catalog, 1924, London, you can buy the trick for 70 pounds. They have several versions using trunks, enclosed canopies, and the substitution of a small case with a doll into a large trunk with a lady inside (enclosed briefly by a canopy).

It seems that trying to pinpoint the origin of the glass casket and the appearance of the young lady is an impossible task when you think about all the effects that have come after and before using a special platform, sliding panels, hiding on the edge, and so on. Using glass panels before the age of lightweight plexiglass must have been burdensome as far as breakage and weight.


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Well, quickly read through both books you mentioned and they were AWESOME. SO many amazing photos and writeups in there. So thanks for that. There wasn't anything in there about a crystal casket as we know it, however. Yep, definitely principles that led to the later creation...but nothing more than that.

Here's my current findings - complete with patent!

http://www.illusionrepository.com/illusi......-casket/
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Quick questions and note. Was not Carl Rosenfield the real name of Carl Rosini. Dick Oslund wrote something to that effect here on the Café.

Also, the small crystal casket was invented long before Percy Abbott in Europe and several other makes were made in this country before Abbott even moved here from Australia.

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On 2013-01-29 13:47, hugmagic wrote:
Quick questions and note. Was not Carl Rosenfield the real name of Carl Rosini. Dick Oslund wrote something to that effect here on the Café.



Close, but different. Rosini came much later, I believe. http://www.magictricks.com/biographies-of-magicians-R.html

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On 2013-01-29 13:47, hugmagic wrote:
Also, the small crystal casket was invented long before Percy Abbott in Europe and several other makes were made in this country before Abbott even moved here from Australia.


I got that info from a lot of other sources online stating Abbott as the creator...I reworded it on the IR since the site is not currently a resource for "small tricks," but rather large illusions. I don't want to take any sort of authoritative stand on things I'm not sure about. Got to put all the available info out there! Changed the wording to just say that he "SOLD" the illusion and not that he invented it.
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