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lorenzo New user Italy 14 Posts |
Hi to everybody! I am a professional actor/juggler from italy, I recently became really interested in magic, especially mentalism. it's the first time I write here so... nice to meet you!
I have a question for you if you don't mind, I need help. I am working on my new theater show, mainly a comedy show. one of the characters I will play is a sort of mentalist/guru/coach/scientist that is a master of mind's powers so I am looking for some mentalism effect's that can give the idea to the audience that he is a sort of "genius". I mean that I don't want them to think he has psychic powers or be an illusionist but that he developed extraordinary mental skills that potentially everyone could achive with a special training. right now, to my short knowledge of mentalism, I am considering this effects: - memory test - book test but I am sure that there are many more that I don't know and can fit for my purpose with the appropriate presentation. any idea or advice? can you suggest me the most appropriate methods/books/DVDs/props for my goal? many thanks in advance to anyone will be helpful. all the best. lorenzo |
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Ruairidh Regular user London 200 Posts |
Day for any date would work well, the ability to square and cube numbers and a magic square...all found in Corinda's 13 Steps.
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Chaz93 Inner circle Texas 1754 Posts |
Memory tests are great, such as memorizing a list of 20 random objects called out by the audience. Book tests can be fun too (one of my personal favorites. Don't know why, but I love book tests). Quick calculations can play well too, such as a magic square. If you haven't already taken the plunge you could do no wrong by investing in Corinda's 13 steps to mentalism. That one book should give you plenty of material.
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Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts |
Benvenuto, Lorenzo!
I agree with your own thoughts to demonstrate something along the line of memory effects. For example, a strong piece to apparently prove your memorization skills is called "Card Memory" found in various publications by Bob Cassidy's (e.g. "The Art of Mentalism 2", "The Artful Mentalism" or "Mental Miracles with Bob Cassidy". Another recommendation for a great presentation of the "Day for any Date" plot goes to a new book by Hans Solka ("Die Schnapszahlmethode") which is soon to be released in English as well. Its strength lies in the charming ease of calculation (even for total beginners) without forfeiting any of its impact. If you're interested in Magic Squares as well, make sure to check out the books by Doug Dyment, namely "Stimulacra" and "Mindsights", which are very well worth reading. Good luck!
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Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts |
I'm a bit of a kindred soul, Lorenzo. My Grey Matters blog is focused on various mental math, memory, and related feats:
http://headinside.blogspot.com/ The best place to start is probably the Menatl Gym section, where each post focuses on a specific feat: http://gmmentalgym.blogspot.com/ Also, here's a long lists of memory-related effects you may find useful: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23420016/MemoryEffects.pdf |
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Mr Salk Special user Tied to 568 Posts |
Shuffle a deck of cards. Let someone choose a card and keep it. Shuffle the deck. Moderately riffle through the cards face-up and memorize them.
Do some mental algorithms and deduce the missing card.
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MindreaderDavid New user St Paul 67 Posts |
I also recommend Corinda. The Magic Square shows math genius and Day for any Date shows memory genius as well. There is more that can be applied as well.
There is a chess act that may be worth looking into
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Mauricio Jaramillo Elite user Colombia 413 Posts |
Ah, I was just about to recommend Scott Cram's website, a treasure trove indeed. About 2 or 3 years ago, Café member "Mr. Mindbender" http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/bb_pr......er=34869 shared a wonderful premise for a magic square he came up with that involved post it notes and a crazy genius type of presentation with them. Not sure where that post is, but do a search for Magic Squares and his name, I'm sure many here will find it useful.
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1609 Posts |
Day for Any Date, Magic Square and Knight's Tour are my top 3 recommendations.
I have a free tutorial and learning app for the Knight's Tour at http://www.mindmagician.org/tour3.aspx Mike |
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aalexander Loyal user 232 Posts |
If you're familiar with book tests and memory systems, why not do something simple like recite the contents of a "randomly" selected statistics/math textbook and then recite it back to the crowd? Could be very minimal work for a huge payoff that fits right in with the theme.
For example, I think it'd be great to use a number force like The Gift in The Logar Scrolls (any force would do though). There's the perfect premise of seeming to call out for random bits of information and then quickly and flawlessly tallying the total in your head (in fact you're keeping track of a much simpler number relationship). Have someone with a calculator confirm the page number, a participant flips there, and then recite all the digits on that page. The prep would be pretty painless using 2know mnemonics software, a little longer if you aren't too familiar with the Phonetic Major System (very similar to the mnemonic system in 13 steps). -Aaron. |
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Bill Cushman Inner circle Florida 2876 Posts |
People are making some great suggestions and I'm excited to rediscover the work of Scott Cram. My best suggestion is the true mastery of mnemonics which is being suggested in small doses but I'm talking about going full on.
The interesting part to me is that while you will feel you are learning tricks at first, you will be actually improving your mind using methods that have withstood the test of thousands of years of time. And you'll learn skills to accomplish what you want both for real and via deception while aiding you immensely in all areas of mentalism. And life! On the lighter side, I've seen a well known mentalist/memory expert demonstrate memorizing an entire book via the use of Flashback! Last but not least, everyone with an interest in mnemonics and the workings of memory should run not walk and buy Joshua Forer's Moonwalking with Einstein. I'm only about a third of the way through the book and am finding it amazing as well as extremely well written. If I'd read this in grad school, I'd probably have become a neuropsychologist. . |
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andyk New user Vancouver 24 Posts |
A book that will definitely help you to do memory effects is How to Develop a Super Power memory by Harry Lorayne or any of his other memory books.
Also check out this Ted Talk by mathemagician Arthur Benjamin for some inspiration: http://www.ted.com/talks/arthur_benjamin......gic.html |
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quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
Book me. I AM a bona fide genius.
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lekin Regular user Sometimes less is more so I only have 175 Posts |
Barrie Richardson has several intersting items in A theater of the Mind. Fifty-two cards in succession is one that comes to mind. ALso, Chuck Hickock's magic square in Mentalism, Inc.
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GDGrey New user 76 Posts |
You can reframe a lot of prediction effects so that, rather than being a demonstration of the paranormal or even of psychological influence, you are demonstrating some kind of "scientific" power of prognostication.
So that not only have you developed a "system" for predicting the outcome of a certain event, you can also do the necessary number-crunching in your head. With a little thought about what sorts of things a hyper-brainiac scientist might predict, and how he might go about it, standard methods should work well for "proving your hypothesis". For standard methods, I also recommend getting familiar with 13 Steps...
PredictionTech and other apps for Android smartphones: http://kernow.me/
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seamagu Special user 885 Posts |
Day for any date is good, memorising 20 or 30 random digits and reciting them forwards and backwards is quite doable once you learn a good system. I found harry loraynes age less memory to be a good source for learning systems.
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Chaz93 Inner circle Texas 1754 Posts |
Wow... lots of information being given out here, in public, to someone with only 1 post...
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quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
This always happens. It seems people just can't help themselves.
That's why I opted for a Parmenionesque response. Quote:
On 2013-01-09 17:40, Chaz93 wrote: |
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lorenzo New user Italy 14 Posts |
What a prompt answer from so many people! let me express my gratitude to all of you for your kind help, you gave me a lot of ideas and good hints. thank you very much indeed.
corinda's 13 steps was on my list, immediately ordered and coming next days. fortunately I borrowed osterlind's 13 steps DVDs from a magician good friend of mine, do you know if there is everything explained in the book? when I was young I made myself a day by any date system after viewing "rain man"... but I forgot about it! thanks to remind me the effect, I will study new systems. memorizing a card deck sound interesting, even if I would like to avoid card as most as possible, just to not look like a magician. is there something else that could be easily memorized without strong memotechincs? I knew a little bit about magic squares, I will look for an appropriate presentation of it as nicolino and mauricio suggested. by the way... nicolino, sei italiano? I will give a look to all the books about memory some of you suggested, they sound useful. I am aware that this is my first post... but I just discovered the forum! I immediately posted a presentation of mine in the new arrivals board. No intention to lurke only. I am quite new to mentalism, as you can see, but I am available to share all my knowledges in acting and circus arts if you need, not here of course, would be OT. all the best. |
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lorenzo New user Italy 14 Posts |
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On 2013-01-08 12:47, Scott Cram wrote: congratulations for your blogs, very usefull. the list is fantastic! |
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