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Big fans of Joe Barry may like to check out his performance for 3 fellow magicians on the Alakazam magic blog. His interview starts at around 14mins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZRwp9qwkI

The second trick he did blew me away and totally fooled me. I watched it back a few times and eventually realised it's a trick I already perform! His handling, subtleties and relaxed presentation totally put me off the scent. I've since been presenting that trick with his handling and totally flooring everyone. He's still so young and yet seems to have already created a wonderfully likeable, natural way of presenting his tricks that many magicians aim for and never find in the entire career! I hope he keeps creating and sharing with the community as I think his material is well worth studying.
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Agree with these reviews, Joe's material is very high quality and his presentational manner really sells the effect brilliantly and adds to the deception. You are sure to find at least one or two items on this set that can go into your regular performances.
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I really love this set. It is full of ideas and the routines are wonderful.

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As with many reviewers, I also believe this is a great DVD set. Rainman is a powerful method that could be used by pros or amateurs with ease. While he uses two decks, the method could easily be adapted to one deck. I have quite a unique stacked deck system that I use and I think this is a tremendous effect to do following the shuffling or "accidentally dropping" of the stacked deck and doing an affect that looks like a stacked deck effect.

I also really like his "fluid", loose style. I think it is good for anyone of any level to sort of remind ourselves of the benefits of being looser and more casual with magic effects, particularly for a small, intimate group of people. He also uses some very good verbal and non-verbal "non-magic" methods of conveying total randomness where you just get sucked into thinking the effect is not going well and the outcome is more surprising.

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On 2013-02-23 07:45, Zombie Magic wrote:
Roger , thanks for the review and the heads up for the Rainman routine.

That routine has me scratching my head:

http://youtu.be/C0FClfZL1uU?t=2m24s


I would buy the dvd just for this routine, it looks crazy and have no idea how this can be done...
It really fits what I like in card magic ! Mystery, easy to follow, baffling,…
Before buying the dvd (for this trick), is there like a "best scenario" or it always look that clean !?
And can it be done impromptu ? Thanks anyone for your help Smile

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Everytime, and is totally impromptu. Great DVD set
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Thanks Xcath1 Smile
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At the end, I heard that there is a best scenario for Rainman !
Luckily for Joseph, that scenario is the one shown in the video.
So Xcath1, I guess we have a different definition of "a best scenario" Smile

Nicolas
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On 2013-05-14 08:04, papawemba wrote:
At the end, I heard that there is a best scenario for Rainman !
Luckily for Joseph, that scenario is the one shown in the video.
So Xcath1, I guess we have a different definition of "a best scenario" Smile

Nicolas


There's no 'best scenario' for Rainman. What you see in the trailer is how it looks everytime.

If in doubt just ask Joe to demonstrate it at the next convention (he attends most of the big UK ones), in fact I've even seen him perform Rainman with as many as four cards!
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Can someone tell me if this effect, Rainman,

http://youtu.be/C0FClfZL1uU?t=2m24s

is done exactly the same way as this one, at 14'36''...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZRwp9qwkI

It cannot be! It seems a s**** is used in the second video.
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On 2013-05-17 06:33, Jonathan C wrote:
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On 2013-05-14 08:04, papawemba wrote:
At the end, I heard that there is a best scenario for Rainman !
Luckily for Joseph, that scenario is the one shown in the video.
So Xcath1, I guess we have a different definition of "a best scenario" Smile

Nicolas


There's no 'best scenario' for Rainman. What you see in the trailer is how it looks everytime.

If in doubt just ask Joe to demonstrate it at the next convention (he attends most of the big UK ones), in fact I've even seen him perform Rainman with as many as four cards!


Thanks Jonathan, ok I finally decided to order the DVD, so I guess I'll find out ;-)
And with my definition of "best scenario"...

Nicolas
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On 2013-05-17 07:26, doriancaudal wrote:
Can someone tell me if this effect, Rainman,

http://youtu.be/C0FClfZL1uU?t=2m24s

is done exactly the same way as this one, at 14'36''...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZRwp9qwkI

It cannot be! It seems a s**** is used in the second video.


Hey doriancaudal, It is that exact video that make me thing of a best scenario Smile
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I have the DVD and it is great. Rainman as taught on DVD is on the table which is considerably easier. I actually successfully did rainmain right after watching. I know the question is if there is a ideal situation and a not so ideal and the answer is not really. I say not really and not flat out no because the difference between them is roughly half a second. Half a second to me is basically the same. AND if you pay close attention to Joe's advice on the DVD you will get Valuable tips that will have you performing it like him in no time.

I believe his mentions the in the hands way approach on the DVD but it is harder and would take more practice than the table method. Although the method is the same, it would take more practice.

Support Joe! He is great.

Ryan
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Both videos are true representations of Rainman as taught on the DVD.

In fact, at a recent meet I witnessed Joe perform Rainman for a group of people with a genuinely shuffled, borrowed deck. He even got the spectator to deal the cards onto the table one-by-one. Then he had three cards named and almost instantly announced each the position of each card! To prove he was right he had another spectator deal the cards to the named positions and show the named card at each number... It doesn't get much cleaner than that!

That fact that doubt has been raised over the best scenario is a testament to how bulletproof Joes methods are.
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I have a question regarding this DVD.

I received my copy yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Some very clever ideas and methods here.

However, I was looking out for, and didn't seem to find, the trick Joe performs in this video at the very end....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZRwp9qwkI&t=23m38s (should play from the trick)

Is this on the DVD , but under a different presentation?
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Man, this set looks great. Definitely on my "to buy list".
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On 2013-05-17 07:26, doriancaudal wrote:
Can someone tell me if this effect, Rainman,

http://youtu.be/C0FClfZL1uU?t=2m24s

is done exactly the same way as this one, at 14'36''...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZRwp9qwkI

It cannot be! It seems a s**** is used in the second video.


Sorry to come back on that, but having seen the DVD, his explananation for Rainman does not match the second version, from the second video, at 14'36''. I can see methods for achieving the second effect, but not with the one provided in the DVD... Can you confirm that?
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There's no 'best scenario' for Rainman. What you see in the trailer is how it looks everytime.

If in doubt just ask Joe to demonstrate it at the next convention (he attends most of the big UK ones), in fact I've even seen him perform Rainman with as many as four cards!
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I disagree. There is a best scenario for Rainman. It's briefly acknowledged in the explanation. The best scenario allows you to quickly take the cards off of the table while other scenarios require a beat or two.
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DVD relies too heavily on "classic f****" type of moves that require precise timing. However, they're necessary at "high-stakes" moments and have no solid "out."

While I perform the classic f****, I don't RELY on it. I always found that move easy, and I practiced it by performing it every single time I needed someone to pick a card, even if freely. However, I just find lots of this kid's moves to be much harder to practice than the traditional classic f****. You can't practice some of these moves without completely fouling up a trick and taking out your invisible deck as an out.

He is so charming. I smile during his presentations. However, his moves are "custom" in a sense. Lots of fiddling around with the cards, reminiscent of Lennart Green. I laughed when I read someone call his effects "self-working." Not true at all. You need major audience management and timing skills and an ability to just do whatever you want with the cards in a nonchalant manner. Rainman is cool, but I generally caught the method in the demo. I feel like your spectators may catch the method too if you don't get the "best scenario," which I believe is a REAL factor in that trick.

I find the DVDs discouraging.
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On 2013-03-04 09:37, Quentin wrote:
Here is the review I did for Duncan Trillo's http://www.magicweek.co.uk

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My favourite is the Math trick. From a shuffled (by the audience) deck you deal some cards in front of three participants. They each decide how many they get. You then toss small bunches of cards onto the table until someone shouts STOP. These are now counted, by you or an audience member. You announce that the total number of counted cards will equal the sum of the top cards of the three piles. These cards are turned over and their values added. The totals match. To a layman this appears totally impossible. This routine would work well with the effect where a participant cuts the deck in three piles, you turn over the top cards of two of the piles and can deduce the value of the top card in the third pile.

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Quentin,

What is the actual name of the "Math Trick" to which you were referring? In looking at the actual titles of the effects as posted by Zombie Magic here in this thread, the nearest I can see that might be the "Math Trick" you named would be "Psychological spread force Simple math" on Disk 1. Is that the one you were referring to?

Thanks for the info.

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