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Need a bit of time to do that, but I will.
I'm at work right now, and I need to do a few things this weekend. Maybe Sunday night....


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I just haven't had time to even break open the package - sorry guys! I usually come through but I'm slammed now.
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Just got mine today after an extensive back order at Hocus
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YAY TEAM !!

Thankyou Bats and emerys; Many of us trust your opinions. I so hope you can eventually be freed up time-wise saysold: your reviews are ALWAYS top-notch and very helpful

Some good in-depth reviews are on the way from some of the best!

(Waiting...Waiting....EXCITED !!....Waiting...) Smile
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The method is creative and something I wouldn't have figured out on my own. It will take about 10-15 minutes to make and they walk you through construction on the DVD. You use your own business cards and the reset is instant. The routines they show are very clever. The snow globe routine is my favorite. Now for the two issues everyone wants to know about, noise and reliability. As for noise, yes, it makes a noise. Not a "hear it across the room noise" but definitely a noise that would lead the spectator to think something just happened. So in a noisy environment, you are probably ok. Otherwise you are definitely going to have to snap at the time of the change.

As for reliability, the big question is whether it is controllable. The answer is "sort of". On the DVD, the gimmick goes off early a few times. Didn't exactly instill confidence. They claim it should be safe for 10-20 seconds but there's no real way to guarantee that. To me, this was the biggest issue.

The other issue is the actual get ready when you actually draw the prediction. To me, this was another weak point. You essentially need two hands to do it correctly and while the needed actions can be hidden somewhat, the actions don't look like something you would do if all you were doing is drawing a prediction.

Bottom line, the method is very clever, but the control factor and the get ready will likely keep people from giving this a go.
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Emyers99, thank you for taking the plunge to order this and let us know your feelings on it.

My favorite business card trick is TOOSH by Steve Haynes. I don't feel Ink'A'Change is strong enough for me to switch, so I'm going to pass on getting it. The control factor is too great an issue for me.
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I've been messing around with this for the last two hours or so, and I like it.

There are, however, a few "buts" to contend with.

The noise issue has been brought up, but I'll say it really is a non-issue. I did a sample performance for my daughter. The television was on and I was talking. She heard nothing, and she was not more than 3 feet away from me. Her jaw dropped open (and I mean that- her jaw dropped open for real!) and she asked me to do it again. I did it again- she still heard (or saw) nothing. My daughter is my "assistant" when it comes to practicing and working out the bugs of my performance. She tells me if she sees or hears anything funny. She had to help me prepare the gimmick (I couldn't do it by myself, although I tried), so she had an idea of what was going on, but she was still amazed! I wouldn't do it in the library, but in most normal situations this should be fine. If you have any doubts, just snap your fingers.

I have one MAJOR problem with using my own business cards to do this. It will not work with the cards that I currently have. Despite that, I still like this. I like it so much that I am going to have more cards printed up, even though I currently have a good supply of cards on hand. Just to be fair, I was considering having more cards printed up anyway, so now I have two reasons to do that. I wanted to have "Balloon Twister" added to my title of "Magician", since I've learned to make various balloon animals and stuff recently.

Why won't my cards work with this? Because my cards are printed on a card stock that is very "soft", they are not coated with a glossy finish, and the paper also has a series of raised ridges on it. For those reasons it won't work very well. I believe that you will need a "hard" paper that is glossy on one side and not on the other (so you can draw on it), with no ridges on it. I also believe that if you have cards with that "raised ink" on it, this will not work for you.

I had to go to my local pizzeria and grab a bunch of their business cards to do this today. Even though I think that my cards are on a nicer, more expensive paper stock than the pizzeria's, their cards worked very well and mine didn't.

But I believe that most BC's are printed on a normal paper that will work well. It's just that in my creative effort to produce a nice BC, I made a mistake in choosing the paper that I used.

There is a possibility that the change will happen when you do not want it to. Again, I don't think that will be a major issue. There are ways to prevent that from happening. But it could. The DVD will help you avoid that.

I also believe that you will have to make new gimmicks fairly often, depending on how often you use it. I'm not sure how long I would use one gimmick before replacing it with another, but I am reasonably sure that a gimmick will not last too long. But I replace decks of cards every few weeks- less if I use it a lot. And any time that I have a real paid performance (which is honestly not very often), I open up a new deck as well. Why shouldn't I replace this gimmick also? It will cost you around one thin dime and 15 minutes of your time to do that. Remember- a bad carpenter always blames his tools for his poor work. Don't let your bad tools cause a bad performance!

Here is the thing that I am most uncomfortable with. To set up the effect, you must do some fiddly things. I do not like fiddly things. Like, for instance, Nick Einhorn's "Deluxe Set of Nesting Wallets". Despite lots of stellar reviews from Café patrons, I will not buy it because it requires a Mercury CF, if I am not mistaken. I am just soooo uncomfortable doing a MCF. So that is not for me.

I will, however, after much practice and getting new business cards printed, do the fiddly things that need to be done for "Ink'A'Change". It is such a beautifully visual thing that happens right out in the open, I just can't resist. It is so simple to actually do. No knuckle-busting sleights required. The only practice that I need is with the fiddly things. And I am probably being overly cautious with saying I need to practice doing the fiddly things. It's just that I perform for lots of grabby people that are always looking for funny things that I am doing. So I can practice with pizzeria BC's, and as soon as I get mine done, I should be ready to go. I'm never in a hurry to add something to my performing repertoire, but this I am looking to add ASAP. I need a month to get new cards, though- can't afford the BC expense, which seems an unnecessary thing. I suppose that I can use La Familigia business cards instead, but it's just not professional enough for me. I know- I'm not a professional, but I have my standards. And if you don't like my standards, I can always get others!

So I actually recommend this fairly highly, especially if fiddly things don't bother you. Even if they do, I think it is worth your while. It's not overly fiddly. And it's such a beautifully visual thing to behold! It's not like passing your hand over a queen of hearts and changing it into an 8 of clubs while your hand is hiding it, which is a standard thing for magicians. Right out in the open, and hand out your business card for a souvenir and a reminder of what you just did!

It would be impossible to forget you after you perform this.

Obviously I have no real world performance experience with this. But I will be performing "Ink-A-Change"!

Oh, and before I actually received this, I was thinking that maybe this could replace "Out To Lunch" for me (which I love!), but it won't. Can't really do the same kind of things with this one. At least I don't see it myself.

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Hey bats,
Thanks for your in depth review! Great to hear you enjoy Ink'A'Change.
If you, or anybody else, have any questions feel free to ask!
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I had a lot of fun reading your post!
I'd also like to pick up some of your Cons:
#1 coverd by bats Smile

#2your business card is just fine for Ink'A'Change as long as you can see wrtitten ink on one side (the other side absolutely doesn't matter) and it's not too thin.

#3 if you handle the gimmick correctly it won't going off before you want to.
on the dvd cause the explaining took more time then you normally would need performing it.

#4 again if done correctly the gimmick is invisible, you as the magician know what to look for and therefore you can see your gimmick, but your audience doesn't.

you skipped 5# Smile

#6 now you got a review Smile btw: I found another one: http://magic.about.com/b/2013/04/09/revi......sanz.htm

#7 we were sure people would love it but in the first few weeks it was kind a secret tip and was under the radar cause we at balcony don't like the hyping sh*t and suddenly everybody wanted it.
btw: we have more of these "secret tips" to come soon, so make sure to subscribe to the newsletter on http://www.balconyproductions.com, and follow on facebook, youtube and twitter.

#8 why should we stay close to penguin magic's price, we made the price and not penguin Smile, they just lowered it on their site

#9 I'm sorry that you're not brett Smile

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It was pointed out to me by someone here that "Nest of Wallets" is not for cards and does not need a MCF.

I guess that I was mistaken. I'm confusing it with something else, or else I just forgot, if you know what I mean!

I'm getting too old to remember all of these things!

It wouldn't be the first time that I claimed one thing about an effect, but I confused it with another.

The amount of things that are released these days is just overwhelming- I can't remember which effect that I'm talking about!

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... and now you are posting about Nested Wallets in the Ink "a" Change thread.... medic! Smile
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Not really, J M.

I mentioned "Nest" for a specific reason in my review of "Ink", which is several posts above this, but I made a mis-statement about "Nest".

I just wanted to try and explain my mis-statement.

I won't do it again! (Mention "Nest", I mean- I'm sure I will continue to make mis-statements!)

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Got it... just re-read your review and understand... great review by the way. I picked this up yesterday and look forward to trying it out. Diamonds Magic in Peabody, Mass. has a few in stock...

Cheers,

John
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Bats,

Thank you so much for taking the time for your review. You made a very compelling case to give it a try and I think addressed most if not all of the questions being asked.

Zombie's post reminded me that I own Toosh but I don't think ever opened it...dummy that I am. I will now!

Thank you again Bats, great job and I think you helped a lot of us out with your experience. Any "real-world" example is helpful but I especially appreciate and value the examples of how an illlusiion played when shown to someone the magician loves. Thankyou for sharing those things with us.

P.S. I think you have my favorie avatar in all of the Café!. Smile
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Thanks a lot, trueinventor.

The Bats part just comes from the beginning of my last name, which starts out with Batt. I've been called Bats by friends for most of my life, along with Johnny Bats and JB (again from my name).

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So I now have video and got around to watching it after being busy for a few days. I really like the trick/gimmick. However now that I am looking to construct it, it appears that although I received IET with the DVD, it is no where to be found. Apparently I made it disappear and didn't even try.

In any event, what would be the best version of IET that I could purchase to replace the gimmick I lost. Have any of you played around with different types of IET and found a particular version to be more suited to use in constructing Ink'A'Change?

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Quote:
On 2013-05-03 12:44, Kaliix wrote:
So I now have video and got around to watching it after being busy for a few days. I really like the trick/gimmick. However now that I am looking to construct it, it appears that although I received IET with the DVD, it is no where to be found. Apparently I made it disappear and didn't even try.

In any event, what would be the best version of IET that I could purchase to replace the gimmick I lost. Have any of you played around with different types of IET and found a particular version to be more suited to use in constructing Ink'A'Change?

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.


I was wondering about the IET types too. I would imagine the kind for loops would not be strong enough.

Frank
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This trick is insane. I've had no problem with noise, if its quite shake the pack and noise could be anything. When initially making it can be a pain, most magicians have worked with the special something in past, I found that there was a lack of tension when made up but can easily fixed. If anyone else is having this problem message me as I got a solution but not willing to post here as I can't explain without tellin method. Any way this is a real worker an is a must buy.

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Finally got around to playing with this, had to order some new business cards. I got them thru Vistaprint and ordered their Premium Glossy finish, which I think is not really conducive to this trick. So may have to reorder some other cards. I really like the idea and method, I don't think noise will be a factor since I mainly do walk around and it is usually noisy at the venues I perform. Just wondering if anyone else has had a problem with the Glossy finish and getting the gimmick to stay in place?
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Fcchief1, have you tried using more of the g**e?

I'll also be ordering some new business cards from Vistaprint with a glossy finish to facilitate LokI Kross's Sigil. That way, I might have a choice between performing Sigil and Ink'A'Change when I go strolling.

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I'm very late to this discussion. It looks fantastic - but I have one very important question to ask...

Do I need to prepare a gimmick for this for every performance, if I'm going from an apparently blank business card as a starting point in my routine?

Or is the gimmick something I can make up once and use many times without needing to remake?

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