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As some of you do this effect in your mentalism shows I thought you would enjoy this gentleman's approach (as well as a few thoughts on memory work).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-ferris......940.html
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In the event that the linked article is not being read closely I might point out there is a link in the article to a contest. That contest concerns memorizing a deck of cards and the prize is $10,000. The contest runs for the next month.
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Interesting. I've never heard of that method before. I always love reading new methods and new approaches to things. I must say though (for me) I will stick to the Aronson stack and just lie to my spectators in telling them that I will attempt to memorize this deck right before their very eyes Smile

Technically I'm not fully lieing am I? I did memorize the Aronson stack, so there is SOME truth to it Smile

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It's quite a very classical approach. The first system I learned as a pupil in the early nineties was exactly like this one. Exept it used characters from movies/tv-shows and not celebrities. Each suit was a movie or tv-show I really liked and the positions were the houses in the street where I lived. So my line was to "ring at each door and the character from the show opened the door and did something really stupid". That were very vivid images - easy to remember.
I always liked it, to have the king of clubs in the first position, because that position was the church at the end of our street and KoC stood for Darth Vader (Clubs were characters from the old - one and only - SW Trilogy).

I like this system and to use celebrities is a very neat idea, especially, when you can create very strange images with them.
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I think mnemonics is a very powerful tool for anyone, especially for a mentalist. The best books on the subject I've ever read were written by Harry Lorayne who is a member of the Café. It's not difficult to learn and you'll be amazed at what you can do.
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I also recommend David Berglas' work on how to memorize a deck of cards... One of his stack is marvelous for that kind of memorization method.
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I've been known to do a card memory demonstration on occasion.

:eek:
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Many, many people who are smarter than me have come up with much more clever ways to memorize a stack than the way I did it. I first posted the method I used, verbatim to what I've included below, in January 2007 when Michael Close was a Café guest. I repeat it here just in case someone out there learns the same way I do. Is it legal for me to artificially inflate the number of posts that I have by including the exact same post twice over my nine year membership here?

Thanks.

Frank

My cryptic, and likely unoriginal, approach:

I memorized Aronson's stack by making "clock faces" out of four paper plates and putting card values at the number positions. The plates were named A,B,C,D. To get the associated stack number for each card: A(1-12), B(add 12 to clock indice), C(add 24 to clock indice), D(add 36 to clock indice). Associating cards at positions on a clock worked for me because it had somewhat of a visual aspect to it. After watching TV for several nights with plates in hand, I had it. Also, it was kind of interesting how some card/number combinations were very easy to remember due to some pattern or where they fell on a clock face. Testing yourself is also rather easy (e.g., 12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock A through D, etc...). The last four cards of the stack I just had to do through brute memorization. Sorry for chiming in ... I know nobody asked me.
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This approach sounds interesting. However, I'm a little lost. Do you think it might be possible to make a video?
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Matthew,

Sorry for the confusion. I'll work on putting a video together and PM you a link.

Thanks.


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Luke Jermay has some nice stuff in his 49 seconds manuscript. I also LOVE richard osterlinds breakthrough card system.
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....which has nothing to do with a mem deck, of course.
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On 2013-02-17 17:22, Nicolino wrote:
....which has nothing to do with a mem deck, of course.


God, no!..................... Smile
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Phill Smith has some interesting work on REALLY memorizing a deck.
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I've successfully used the Derren Brown method in the past. Takes about half an hour after reading the method. Not hard at all.
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On 2013-02-08 16:03, mastermindreader wrote:
I've been known to do a card memory demonstration on occasion.

:eek:

I think it is there on Bob's DVD as a closer and also in one of his books !
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On 2013-02-17 19:06, OTTOEMEZZO wrote:
I've successfully used the Derren Brown method in the past. Takes about half an hour after reading the method. Not hard at all.

plerophoria?
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On 2013-02-17 17:22, Nicolino wrote:
....which has nothing to do with a mem deck, of course.


Except that Osterlind also released a pamphlet on the Memorized BCS.
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On 2013-02-18 08:30, John Raff M wrote:
Quote:
On 2013-02-17 19:06, OTTOEMEZZO wrote:
I've successfully used the Derren Brown method in the past. Takes about half an hour after reading the method. Not hard at all.

plerophoria?


No, it was actually from his "Tricks of the Mind" book.
"The Swan Song" is my last release to the mentalism community. Only a few copies remain!

"Unholy Grail" is now available! Features Perfected Day for Any Date, Ultimate PK Touches, Triple Drawing Duplication, and The Presence (my ghost effect)! Everything is 100% prop-less!

"Tres" LIMITED EDITION e-Book contains my signature "No Touches" PK Touches! Now SOLD OUT!

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With Richard Osterlind's Breakthrough Card System you can't really get "lost" as it is more of a system. I use mnemonics and Breakthrough to do a ACAAN so if you "lose" a card you can still get to it if you know the card at the number one or two before that place in the deck. In other words I know most of the 52 positions in the deck but a few I have a little trouble with so if someone calls the number like 26 and I'm not sure of the that card I can backtrack. I KNOW the 25th card is 25 cents or one quarter with 5 diamonds encrusted into it(5♦). From there I can get to the next card the A♦. So as I said you really can't get stuck on a card the has slipped your memory at the time.
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