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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2013-03-09 20:12, Dannydoyle wrote: "Individuals acting responsibly" is different from "an individual solution." When there are collective problems (let's say racist laws for a non-controversial example) then individuals acting responsibly (e.g. those engaged in civil disobedience against such laws) do so in the expectation that their individual actions will lead to collective action (more and larger acts of protest and civil disobedience) and that these in turn will lead to collective solutions (e.g. Civil Right Acts passed by Congress). This is far different from "an individual solution" (e.g. I won't tell racist jokes to my co-workers). The latter, while admirable, is not enough to bring change when the problem is structural in the society.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Both are necessary for meaningful lasting change.
Danny Doyle
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2013-03-10 10:50, landmark wrote: While I largely agree landmark, don't you agree that if high profile people within the civil rights movement had continued behaving in highly racist manners, it would have somewhat weakened their arguments? |
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
What high profile people in the Civil Rights Movement do you consider behaved in highly racist manners?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Karl Marx
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2013-03-10 20:11, Pop Haydn wrote: None that I know of. I was making an anology to the current AGW group. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Rockwall-
Your exact words- my emphasis added in bold: Quote:
... don't you agree that if high profile people within the civil rights movement had continued behaving in highly racist manners, it would have somewhat weakened their arguments? It seems pretty clear that you are alleging some were acting in highly racist manners. Else how could they have "continued" to act that way? Or were you just throwing out a bomb to see what would happen? So what people in the so-called "AGW group" are you making an analogy to? The scientists? |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Wow how did this degrade to race now?
Danny Doyle
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
David Suzuki is not a racist, the darling of AWG just thinks that all people are maggots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKLFYsXhwrk All the ones behind AWG are human haters. Gassing millions of Jews etcetera would not be racist but merely population control. Population control is what it is all about in every way. What is life but energy? They are not after controlling the temperature they after controlling you. Those behind AWG are greatest threat to humanity and freedom the world as ever seen. But no they are not racist at all. Well perhaps some of them are as well.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2013-03-10 22:57, Dannydoyle wrote: I think rockwall just couldn't resist throwing out a bomb to see what would happen. The usual result is that the thread gets deleted. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
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On 2013-03-07 14:07, critter wrote: This says it all alright. It says the warmers would lie to get what they want.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
What is it that "warmers" want, Tommy? And what do you suppose the science deniers want? Keep in mind that the latter are led by the same "think tank" that fronted for the tobacco industry and provided "research" to prove that smoking wasn't harmful.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I get so confused when it is time to attack the source and when it means you don't have an arguement.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
It's not hard to follow. I note though, that you have no problem with Tommy's statement about "warmers" being liars, but instead have chosen to attack my response. The fact that "denier" research comes directly from the same folks who provided fake research on behalf of the tobacco industry doesn't seem to faze you in the least.
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The denial industry That's just the introduction to the full story which can be read at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20......iving.g2 Now sit back and watch how many will attack my source rather than respond to any of the evidence it sets forth. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
It should be said I have problems with most of tommys responses LOL.
Danny Doyle
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
The "warmers" want it all Bob.
Well not quite all. What they do not want is too many people left to share it with. As to your second question, well I will have read your story to see what and who you mean, but it sounds like you are talking about your mob. Bear in mind that our mob proved big oil is part of your mob and not ours.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2013-03-10 22:44, mastermindreader wrote: Unusual as it may seem, I have to defend rockwall here. To my mind, he was clearly making an analogy. Whether I agree with his analogy is another question, but analogy it was, not a bomb, or even a drone.
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
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On 2013-03-11 02:46, Dannydoyle wrote: There's a verb for that now to save using all those words - it's called algoring. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
As far as I can see it is a little like the climate is not weather. .. until it supports the argument being made.
Danny Doyle
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2013-03-10 22:44, mastermindreader wrote: No Bob, I wasn't throwing out any bombs, just making an analogy. Thanks landmark. But, I'll agree, I didn't word it as well as I should have. As I responded to Pop, and I think I was pretty clear, I'm not aware of any who did such a thing and I wasn't trying to change the thread. (As much as you would like to believe otherwise.) |
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