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magicinsight Inner circle 3700 Posts 
I received Mr. Osterlind's new Numeric Vortex in the mail yesterday. IT comes with a 16 page instructional booklet and the specially printed 60 cards. The cards themselves are professionally made each with different 6 digit numbers on each card. The back of the cards have a simple design. The cards themselves are ungimmicked and are not marked yet you can know what cards and numbers were selected. The booklet itself describes in depth the method for knowing the numbers that the spectator(s) selects. The method itself is very easy and well thought out. Even if you are not good with math, you will be able to master his system with a very short time perhaps even minutes. Mr. Osterlind also goes into detail as to how to use thse cards for one or more spectators, for stage use and even for preshow work. He also goes over some presentation ideas. As usual, Mr. Osterlind's booklet is very well written and is filled with his professional knowledge and ideas. You can use these cards for closeup use. These numbers can be written down on your own business cards if you wanted to.
This is a professional produced and well thought out routine. Mr. Osterlind does discuss how to introduce these cards and random 6 digit numbers. The presentation ideas are topical and people would be able to relate to the ideas of how numbers play an important role in our daily lives and how important it is to keep certain numbers such as your credit card number confidential and secure. I would highly recommend it if the premise interests you. Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver 

MatthewSims Special user 771 Posts 
I just watched the video. I'm curious, can you remake the cards for a smaller size (say business card size)? Also, I would much rather present this as a memory demonstration. Could you have 2 or 3 spectators choose a card, glance across them to "memorize" them, and then reveal the order?
Matthew 

Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2214 Posts 
Mathew,
The numbers are listed in the book and you can make up your own set of cards, of course. You could present this as a memory stunt, but I would never do that. That would take away a huge chunk of the impact. Besides, with a little work, you can memorized long strings of numbers, for real. 

magicinsight Inner circle 3700 Posts 
I tried it out for the first time today. The participants followed my directions and no one dropped any cards so my previous concern was unfounded. I was able to reveal the first two numbers without any problems. I got the third number wrong. I asked teh participant if he was sure that the number was incorrect. When he confirmed that I was indeed wrong, I realized that I made a silly calculation mistake and immediately corrected my self and revealed the corect number. I then revealed the entire number but not in sequence. The fact I initially gave the incorrect thrid number reinforced the difficulty in revealing the numbers to the spectators. I might keep on initially missing the third number on purpose only to correct myself. I also think it is a stronger effect is you do not reveal the numbers in sequence. I used a pad and a pencil to keep track of the numbers. It is very easy to do and got very strong reactions. Highly recommended.
Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver 

Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2214 Posts 
Michael,
Glad to hear you are using Numeric Vortex. Here's what I think will happen to you as you perform it. (It happened to me!) As you become more familiar with the math, you will not "worry"! And the more you don't worry, the less you will make any mistakes. Somewhere in the back of all our minds is a mean little voice whispering, "What will you do if you screw up???" With a little time behind the effect, that voice will go away and you won't even think about it anymore. But you are right about making mistakes. It is fine and you shouldn't even think about it. It makes it look real. I made a small mistake in the demo and we said, "Who cares?" That makes it look good. Richard 

gypsyfish Veteran user 364 Posts 
I've been wondering if the same principle is used in Mental Numbers (by Dalhun) in Richard's Easy to Master Mental Miracles 2. I rather liked the demo that accompanied Numeric Vortex (I thought the kids were impressed) and the audience in EtMMM2 was very impressed, too.
Shad 

Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2214 Posts 
Shad,
Mental Numbers was a distant starting point, but far from the finished product. The history is fully covered in the booklet with the effect. There are no "index" numbers on each card and you can see from the demo that the mathematical progression used in Dalhun's Mental Numbers is not in use with Numeric Vortex. More importantly, I have tried to give the effect some realworld meaning so that an audience can relate to the importance of secret numbers in this day and age. Thank you for your nice comments about both performances. I do appreciate that. Richard 

gypsyfish Veteran user 364 Posts 
Thanks for the answer, Richard! I think this is another Osterlind product I'll have to buy soon.


espkeith Veteran user CT, USA 353 Posts 
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On 20130211 21:38, Richard Osterlind wrote: I was thinking the same thing. I've been performing Mental Numbers for some time now thanks to you, Richard. While it's ok as is, I think Numeric Vortex solves a problem or two that I've had with that effect. I'll have to get my grubby hands on this. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting, Richard! 

Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2214 Posts 
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On 20130214 15:38, espkeith wrote: If you have been doing the original Mental Numbers, I think you will really like Numeric Vortex. And remember, unlike Mental Numbers, you can do the effect with 2 or 3 or 4 members at a time, without ever approaching them and their cards. You can even go back and forth between them! 

espkeith Veteran user CT, USA 353 Posts 
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On 20130215 09:05, Richard Osterlind wrote: Ok, that first point is a very nice step up. I'm sold! Ordered! 

magicinsight Inner circle 3700 Posts 
Today I did Numeric Vortex for a school teacher. She was so impressed with the routine that she wants me to do a mentalism stage show for the school.
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver 

Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2214 Posts 
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On 20130215 19:00, magicinsight wrote: Congratulations! That is the kind of story I love hearing! 

magicinsight Inner circle 3700 Posts 
Mr. Ostelrind,
thank you very much. I am thrilled. Now I have to come up with a mentalism stage show for 200 high school children. Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver 

Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2214 Posts 
Great! I have plenty of products to sell!
Just kidding. I know you have a lot of my stuff. 

magicinsight Inner circle 3700 Posts 
Quote: On 20130215 20:09, Richard Osterlind wrote:
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver 

Magicus Loyal user 281 Posts 
Great product in terms of quality and value. So glad it was designed in stage work size!
I was concerned about the memorization/calculation factor. No worries on that front at all. Richard has done a great job coming up with a very easy system  but impossible to reverse engineer by someone not familar with the method (I sat around for an hour trying to crack things before reading on in the booklet, with no success figuring it out until I read the process). I'm happy with the purchase. It's already in rotation in my work and very well received. 

santlerconjurer Veteran user 324 Posts 
This is a question directed to specifically to Richard and others familiar with the product.
Say I wanted to introduce the cards not as exemplifying random numbers (as per Richard's presentation) but, rather, as an announced "stand in" for, say, the serial number on a dollar bill, or the sequence of numbers on someone's credit card. (The audience would agree only "one person can see a dollar bill's numbers, so this way everyone can see the number and everyone can see the test is fair"  something like that). So my question is simple: can the six digit number be announced in the same sequence as it appears on the card? (Calling the numbers in sequence reinforces the idea we're using a standin for a serial number or credit card number, or at least it seems so to me.) Thanks. 

Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2214 Posts 
Yes, you can call out the numbers in sequence. No problem.


mindhunter Inner circle Upstate NY 2097 Posts 
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On 20130217 11:01, Magicus wrote: Same feelings here, Magicus. I have been playing around with the set I recently got and LOVE this. Very high quality materials, and I "got it" much quicker than I thought I would. You WILL be happy with this purchase! Bryn
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