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gaffed Inner circle So far I've managed to gimmick 1817 Posts |
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On 2013-03-11 20:09, 1908 wrote: From your posts I wasn’t aware that you personally know Titanas, nor, from his posts, does he seem to know you, but be that as it may. Then again, I have absolutely no issue whatsoever with him or Romanos, but you however seem to have some serious issues and I am indeed questioning them now. Once again, be that as it may. I was simply making a post as to the impact that this trick may, or may not have, and nothing more. Other than that, I’d strongly suggest that you take your personal issues, whatever they might be, with him via a PM and take your unceasing vindictiveness elsewhere. Hey... just a thought. Quote:
On 2013-03-11 19:29, Marsini wrote: Yeah, right... that makes perfect sense! Wow... it’s no wonder that I rarely post on the Café any longer.
"Half this game is ninety percent mental."
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On 2013-03-11 19:29, Marsini wrote: This has to be a world record of any forum ever. A member for 11 years before he decides to post. Wow. I'm lost for words. |
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2013-03-11 19:29, Marsini wrote: This is your first post in 11 years, attacking someone and then saying you are buying their product for review? I have no interest in reading a review from a friend of a creator ( but I do appreciate when they say up front they are friends ). Why would you think anyone would have an interest in a review of a product from someone that you hate? I'm just curious so that I can finally say I've heard it all. |
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Titanas V.I.P. 1995 Posts |
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On 2013-03-11 19:36, gaffed wrote: Dear gaffed, You are totally correct. If someone can do a classic force perfectly that hits everytime, he doesn't need Voyeur. Best regards, Titanas
Product Developer @ Murphys Magic Supplies
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 04:45, Titanas wrote: I won't be buying it then.
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1908 Special user 882 Posts |
LOL Jamie! If you do not buy it, Titanas will find you and punish you! At least this is what he wrote to me in a PM. I do not understand, all those new tricks he is producing, are all his ideas? This guy must be a genius! Romanos and Titanas, Volpe and Titanas, De Mon and Titanas and so many others, how is that possible? He must be everywhere! ...or maybe he is trying to take credibility for others creations? Can somebody explain that to me? Maybe you Mr.Titans? It is different to say "XStudio productions presents Jamie Ferguson New Mind Effect" and its different to say " The New Mind Effect by Jamie Ferguson and XStudios " ... Any ideas? If I pay a creator can I have my name with his? Is that ethical?
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3640 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 16:36, 1908 wrote: Eek! In that case I've just ordered it. I don't want to be tracked down and annihilated by 'The Punisher'
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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gaffed Inner circle So far I've managed to gimmick 1817 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 16:36, 1908 wrote: Just exactly where does it say that it’s his (Titanas’) idea/creation? It, and other tricks, could very well be in conjunction with, in association with, produced by, purchased the rights to, etc. Ever hear of Paul Harris? His name is on numerous tricks, but he doesn’t take credit for creating them. If by chance I helped to promote, and or produced a trick that I thought would be of interest you can be d**n well sure that I’d have my name on it as, why shouldn’t I? Quote:
If I pay a creator can I have my name with his? Is that ethical? What is not ethical about it as long as you don’t claim to be the creator of it? Hell, if I came out with what I thought was a great effect, and had no idea how to produce/promote it I would, more likely than not, try to get in touch with someone who has already produced tricks and knew the ropes as it were. You obviously have some personal agenda with Titanas, and know him (jealousy perhaps?), as you claim to have performed a classic force for him, and also fooled many magicians with it. To quote you: Quote:
On 2013-03-11 19:41, 1908 wrote: With that, I’d strongly suggest you take your personal grievance with Titanas somewhere else as it’s all getting quite tiring and boring.
"Half this game is ninety percent mental."
~Yogi Berra~ "To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." ~St. Thomas Aquinas~ Twitter – "A means of proving how pathetic and lonely you are in 140 characters or less." ~Anonymous~ |
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gaffed Inner circle So far I've managed to gimmick 1817 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 04:45, Titanas wrote: I’m afraid the only force I can do perfectly every time is forcing a belch!
"Half this game is ninety percent mental."
~Yogi Berra~ "To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." ~St. Thomas Aquinas~ Twitter – "A means of proving how pathetic and lonely you are in 140 characters or less." ~Anonymous~ |
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1908 Special user 882 Posts |
Hello gaffed, you are absolutely right and I will not continue anymore, I just began by writing my opinion about the trick and Titanas PMed me and threatened me. He is the one that is having some issues with me from the past for his reasons but its tiring to explain here. I have nothing to jealous from him as you mensioned(!) since I am the only responsible for taking magic to his country to another level. I do not regret that but I was expecting minimum appreciation for few things. When I first met Titanas he only new about dove pan and some clown tricks for children parties. I gave him all my knowledge and as I thank you he tried to rip me off! Anyway...you mensioned Paul Harris...he NEVER claims or put his name after a creators name, it is always "Paul Harris presents..." "L&L presents..." etc.
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1908 Special user 882 Posts |
I am writing this since I know for sure one creator that had absolutely no idea that Titanas was going to put his name after the name of the original creator and he is very sad with what happened.
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Perseus Arkomanis Loyal user 208 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 20:56, 1908 wrote: Really? I live in THE SAME country and I don't think you have done ANYTHING to bring it to ANY level. I have written the first theoretical,psychological and phylosophical book in Greek about magic and am not boasting about bringing the art on some level. Titanas and Romanos have both released some remarcable effects out there on the market and are not trying to get any attention for it. We are trying for the art though. What the hell have you EVER done?! As for SLIDE I am De'Mon and can verify that the trick was a conjuction of me and Titanas both. I appologise in advance to the rest of the group for the rage but things are very tough here in Greece for magic and I know only a handful of people who are doing serious stuff and really trying to elevate the art...and I REALLY HATE IT when "nobodys" claim they are doing anything when NOT EVEN LIVING IN THE SAME ***ED COUNTRY! FOR HEAVEN"S SAKES!
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1908 Special user 882 Posts |
Perseus maybe you are young or not so many years in magic, ask older people even your friend Titanas what was the level of magic in Greece when I first met him. Just to let you know I am the one that told him about magiccafe and I helped him create his profile! All those people were every single day in my house and I was teaching them sleights, presentation, etc without any profit just because I am really in love with this art. I told them about dvds(videocassetes those years) about magic magazines, conventions, magic outside those 5 tricks that most magicians there they still keep doing! Those people took all my stuff and copied it, selling it around, they were even selling personal sleights I show them! Anyway, this post will get deleted soon or later so good luck with your magic,if I am "nobody" ask around...I stopped having contacts there because anybody that is buying 5 tricks thinks that became the master of the masters! Why all that ego guys?
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1908 Special user 882 Posts |
That was my last post for Voyeur anyway and I wish you honestly Perseus to improve the art as much as you can there.
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M Pitcher Elite user Around the block 432 Posts |
Voyeur is great.
I really like the combination of the principles. It is very clever and very easy to do. About the force or not force debate, there is no force here. M P |
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Martin Waring Loyal user York, England 254 Posts |
My classic force is nowhere near 100% so my force of choice is a riffle force. However even that I use sparingly these days as increasingly there are quite a few of people I encounter who have some small level of knowledge about card magic, enough to know what to look for, who are very keen to spot what you are doing and then let you and everyone else know about it.
I have used Glimpse, (the original version) before so I'm naturally inclined to compare Voyeur with that. So to Voyeur. Pros: No force required. They can very fairly select a card whilst you are not looking. The fact that the card is placed back somewhere in the centre of the deck is what totally baffled me when I saw the demo. Very easy to learn. I opened it up half an hour ago and I can do it already - well most folks won't need half an hour. A complete beginner could practise this and get it down. You can spread the deck face up in your hand or on a table showing every card before the effect if you so wish. The gimmick is less apparent than with the version of Glimpse that I have. It is immediately repeatable with a different outcome, providing you do a reset (which you can do on the fly). Cons: You can't hand out the deck to be examined but why would you especially if you can show every card at the start? The instructions don't seem to deal with the matter of a reset which I think is a bit of an omission which could have been easily rectified. (Its easy enough to fan through the cards face up after you've revealed their card and pull it out to show your spectator). You can't use this deck for anything else but then my cases are stuffed with decks with this issue already! So is it worth getting? Its going to be all down to presentation and the impact you can create with this. I haven't worked it yet but It's certainly one I'll be trying out and working up presentation ideas for. Martin |
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Titanas V.I.P. 1995 Posts |
Thanks for the reviews guys
Best regards, Titanas
Product Developer @ Murphys Magic Supplies
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Dr. Eamon Inner circle ------------John Dream------------If you can Dream it, you can Do it! 1313 Posts |
Any other reviews...
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Dr. Eamon Inner circle ------------John Dream------------If you can Dream it, you can Do it! 1313 Posts |
Is it a new method?
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
Craig and Dave featured this on WPR today and it was one of their best reviews for a product they would not use. It didn't get high marks because it's not something they would use in their work, but they had glowing comments about the product itself. BRAVO lads! That's what a hobby guy like me really wants to know: is the trick/DVD worth the money.
They both said it's very clever ( Dave said the gimmick is ingenious ) and a great DVD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla......WHQBOSsw Craig and Dave can do a peek with a shuffled deck ( Dave Penn is a Master at it ). Hobbyists buy most of the new magic and a peek, not matter how clever the method/style, is simply not going to be learned/used by most hobbyists. In comparing a peek with a regular deck and Voyuer, Dave says the audience would feel it's the same. But that's why most hobbyists use gaffs, etc. They don't perform professionally, but do it for fun ( I do ) but they want to be perceived as being the best Magician that audience has ever seen. I'll carry a Brainwave, ID, Mirage, Svengali, depends what I want to do that day. They can't examine/shuffle those, but Professionals also use them. I use a peek, but I'm open to trying this out after Dave said how ingenious it was. I need all the help I can get! |
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