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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2013-02-14 21:52, acesover wrote: Certainly not anywhere near your sneering "holier than thou" attitude. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Lovers tiff?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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slyhand Inner circle Good ole Virginia 1908 Posts |
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On 2013-02-14 13:01, LobowolfXXX wrote: Really? Wow! If you say so.
I am getting so tired of slitting the throats of people who say that I am a violent psychopath.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2013-02-14 23:29, tommy wrote: No, Tommy. But I still love you so don't worry about it. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2013-02-14 23:54, slyhand wrote: If you're playing 3-card Monte and one person thinks the middle card is the queen and another doesn't, does that make it subjective?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On 2013-02-14 23:08, mastermindreader wrote: You have no idea of my attitude past nor present. If you did you would realize how absurd your post is. I am not sure whether it was you or another poster here that accused me of saying the only morality I speak of is sexual. As many have pointed out here there is much more to morality than just a sexual nature. However I am guilty of having what I feel are rational moral standards regarding sexual behavior. I see nothing unnatural of two ADULTS having sex if they are in love and not just lust that the next night they both have new partners. However that is what a few here believe is Ok and feel it is ok to teach their children this way of life. It is not moral nor natural and there is nothing you nor anyone can tell me differently. Honestly now, don't you care whether your wife has slept around and continues to do so? If you have the outlook of R.S. it should make no difference because they are two consenting adults. That is unless he uses a double standard. Again I am tired of beating around the bush (no pun intended) with you guys explaining the difference between kissy, huggy, feely, make your partner feel good sex and the sex act of creating a child. There is a huge difference. You do know the difference don't you? Ask most women if there is a difference if you don't believe me. There is a world of difference between just satisfying your partner and well you know. Again if you don't believe me ask a female and see what she says. Yet you people fail to acknowledge the difference. You act is if all the acts are the same when you know they are not. If me saying there is a difference makes me in your eye a "holier than thou" attitude...I am guilty as charged. If you think differently, well that is your problem or I guess your right. You see that is where morals kick in. Stealiing is morally wrong. Stealing a candy bar is at best a misdemeanor. Stealing a car on the other hand is different.. Both are stealing. Just as there is a difference in stealing there is a difference in sex acts. I won't go into details as this is not the place for that kind of discussion and you are counting on that. So you tip toe around it and pretend it is not there. Post what you want. Call me holier than thou. Enjoy what you will. However I believe people can see through your accusations as nothing more than a lame excuse to ridicule when there is no moral arguement in your corner. I am done with this discussion so take all the shots you wish. No more responses on this thread from me concerning any moral issues. As I said before I do not care what your moral standards are, just don't try and force them on me as I surely don't try and force mine on anyone. But I do state my opinions. The main difference between me and many posters here is that as Clark Gable said, "I don' give a D___" as to what others think. I don't stand there like a bobble head and shake my head yes just to be one of the crowd. That's not me. Never has been never will be. So flame away guys. Have at it. I am done with this thread as far as morality goes. If it pleases you and your spouse, sleep around and be of the mind set that there is nothing wrong with it because you are consenting adults. However please don't call your relationship with your spouse love.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2013-02-14 19:19, R.S. wrote: Hasn't he been arrested a few times for playing strangle the weasel in public toilets?
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 01:30, acesover wrote: My wife died several years ago. Thank you for perfectly illustrating what I meant by a "holier than thou" attitude. |
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 184 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 01:30, acesover wrote: It amazes me how you continually distort/misinterpret the posts of others. "I see nothing unnatural of two ADULTS having sex if they are in love and not just lust that the next night they both have new partners." But you consider them (the adults in love) to be less moral than the couple that abstains from sex, right? "However that is what a few here believe is Ok and feel it is ok to teach their children this way of life." Where has anybody here indicated that it's OK to teach children it's OK to have "lust that the next night they both have new partners"??? "Honestly now, don't you care whether your wife has slept around and continues to do so? If you have the outlook of R.S. it should make no difference because they are two consenting adults." Where have I ever condoned marital infidelity? "The main difference between me and many posters here is that as Clark Gable said, "I don' give a D___" as to what others think." Apparently, you do give a D___ as to what others think. Enough so as to label them as immoral. I won't bother re-asking some of my previously unanswered questions, because obviously they make you too uncomfortable to answer them. Anyway, I would ask that you stick around. No need to get uptight. It's just a discussion you know. PS - I don't have and never had an X-Box. I am not a teenager. Seems you have a tendency to make unjustified judgments on people. That doesn't surprise me though. Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
R.S.-
I'm thinking this might be an example of projection. The posts you're referring to would give Freudians a field day. |
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 04:55, mastermindreader wrote: While I said I was finished on this thread I must comment on your post. You were not the only poster I was referring too. If you read it you would see where it says many posters here. I am extremely sorry for your loss.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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slyhand Inner circle Good ole Virginia 1908 Posts |
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Really? Wow! If you say so. [/quote] If you're playing 3-card Monte and one person thinks the middle card is the queen and another doesn't, does that make it subjective? [/quote] Yea, you're right. 3 card monte and morality is the same thing.
I am getting so tired of slitting the throats of people who say that I am a violent psychopath.
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
I came here to take a survey, but this must be the wrong thread... my apologies.
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 09:22, slyhand wrote: If you're playing 3-card Monte and one person thinks the middle card is the queen and another doesn't, does that make it subjective? [/quote] Yea, you're right. 3 card monte and morality is the same thing. [/quote] Well, *you* were the one who suggested that mere disagreement somehow demonstrates subjectivity.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2013-02-14 13:01, LobowolfXXX wrote: I assume by "either one of us" you mean that it's possible that he's the one who's wrong and it's possible that you're the one who's wrong, not merely that one of you is wrong and it doesn't matter which. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Yes...I meant that both possibilities exist.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 12:50, LobowolfXXX wrote: Whew! |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 13:24, S2000magician wrote: How do you two ever bid up to game?
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 13:30, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: I think that it's mostly me clicking on the wrong button, but occasionally - I betray a confidence here but in the interest of full disclosure I'm willing to risk it - Lobo blasts. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2013-02-15 13:30, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: That's such a good question, even if it's facetious! I'll even give you a real answer - while we're both intellectually honest enough to admit that we don't "know" a lot of things, we also both realize that lack of "proof" doesn't mean lack of evidence upon which to found reasonable beliefs. When I talk philosophically, I tend to bend over backward to recognize the limitations of "knowledge," but in the real world, I'm happy to use any available evidence, my own brain, and (essentially) Bayes's Theorem to form firm (yet possibly temporary) beliefs. I think this exchange sums it up pretty well: Quote:
On 2013-02-13 19:38, S2000magician wrote: I apologize for pulling apart (and kind of killing) your great one-liner, but it was really an insightful question, and one that made me realize one of the things I really like about talking to (and playing bridge with) Bill...so thanks!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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