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A.G. Special user Vancouver- Canada 960 Posts |
Here is a new piece, I hope it tickles your fancy.
I can save pages of arguing by telling you this person was not a stooge. they were hypnotized 2 weeks prior at a group "quit smoking session" they did not know they were being filmed. Please don't tell the Magicians, they think there is still a magic word. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHEQ-DT9_S4 best, AG
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quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
I hope you gave him the suggestion not to litter in future.
I can't believe he dropped the envelope back on the ground! For the beginners here, please tell them how you made sure he didn't fall backwards or crack his head open on the concrete steps. Better still, join me in telling them not to attempt similar. |
Owen Mc Ginty Special user not a stupid user, a special user. 533 Posts |
I´m left wondering:
a) staged b) wreckless c) incredible safety measures that can´t be seen on the video or something else I haven´t thought of. Please enlighten me!
If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
What if the note reads...
"If you drop down on the floor like you fainted right now, you'll get to be on TV and get 50 bucks."
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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A.G. Special user Vancouver- Canada 960 Posts |
There are some really interesting comments here.
I assume people know the difference from someone given a suggestion to "feel the strength leave you legs and allow yourself to safely fall" and someone losing consciousness ( fainting ) which are 2 completely different things. We DO know this correct ? I am amazed however at how even after my first post that guesses to a method are popping up.. Does it sound that unlikely, that someone is given a post hypnotic suggestion and it works ? The wreck less " appearance" of the video is indeed t makes it inherently scary ( to the public ) I think every time people see someone dramatically go into trance there is a feeling of WOW that is crazy.... Of course we know as professional hypnotists that the subjects are always in our 100% care, and we do everything to make sure their safety is #1 ... we DO know that right ? As for Instant Stooging, I hope that's a joke.. LOL I would think we know that is not necessary to achieve the result shown here... Don't we ? best thought, AG
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
If it is not stooged, and I accept that it can be easily accomplished without it, it is incredibly reckless and a stupid idea.
The danger of head injury on concrete steps is enormous. I don't care how you tall them to fall. I don't doubt the validity of it. Not at all. (Based only on your word. I don't think you would come here and deliberately lie.) To me this is the ego driven nonsense that hurts hypnosis and always will.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On 2013-02-25 13:06, Dannydoyle wrote: I completely agree. This seems dangerous for no good reason.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Mind Guerrilla Inner circle Queens, NY 2670 Posts |
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On 2013-02-25 13:22, Pakar Ilusi wrote: It's also the kind of thing which might be used as evidence by people who want legislation restricting the practice of hypnotism to licensed medical and mental health care professionals. |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yep.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I don't want to center on if it can or can't be done. It is stupid to put it out there as if it could be done like this.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
bobser Inner circle 4178 Posts |
LOL. I'm not sure what the argument is here. I'd find it harder to find a stooge to do this than hypnotise someone to do this.
It would appear that some conmen are smart, whist some are actually a little wiser?
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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A.G. Special user Vancouver- Canada 960 Posts |
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On 2013-03-01 19:19, bobser wrote: Bobser, Thank you for your sensible post. Usually it is the public tat will question what is possible with Hypnosis, not "professional" Hypnotists. Best thoughts, AG
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Ok to be clear this professional didn't question if it was possible. I said it was a stupid thing to do.
And to be even more clear I think the idea that a so called "professional" would do such a thing is decidedly "unprofessional" in my opinion. It is ego driven and unsafe. There are lots of things possible with hypnosis. Weather they are smart or not is another matter entirely.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
I guess I still don't get the appeal and lure of this street or public type of hypnosis. Hypnosis is misunderstood enough and those of us performing it regularly fight and deal with this on a daily basis, why add more misconceptions and false perspectives to what already exists?
In my opinion this in no way helps the stage hypnosis performer or the clinical hypnotherapist or hypnosis in general. So why? (To impress the youtube generation - kiddies?) |
quicknotist Special user 888 Posts |
I suspect A.G. that you got exactly the kind of reactions you were hoping for.
Generally I enjoy and admire your work and your videos. I really do. However, like I have said before (with your work on the Keith Barry 'Black-ops' stuff) we need to be a bit mindful about potential copycats, much less experienced and less prepared than we might be, causing a whole heap of trouble for the rest of us. Besides, it's been over five years since the first Street Hypnosis videos appeared on Youtube (thanks to Sean Michael Andrews, Brian David Phillips, Mayajid and myself) and I really think that with popularity it has lost much of the original curiosity value. Dare I say, it's getting a bit 'old hat?' Also, although I'm sure you've enjoyed the reactions you've got from it, I do feel the way you've introduced your video as kind of a 'magician fooler' is at odds with the usual openness of this industry forum. Just my thoughts... |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Well it is a poor rehash of a criss Angel bit so that should add perspective.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
mannersmakethman New user 7 Posts |
I was not aware that Dynamike was interested in hypnotism. Since it appears he has never posted in this section before I can only conclude he came here to make trouble. I think he should look at the rules governing the Magic Café and note that rudeness to other members is not permitted. In return I will not be rude to him but I must respectfully suggest that he is a blithering idiot and I would strongly recommend he look in a mirror and observe carefully what a blithering idiot looks like. And then with the greatest respect I would heartily suggest that he blither somewhere else.
Since he has had a bee in his bonnet for some time over one particular member and it appears that the said bee has stung him several times I would suggest he somehow manages to live with the fact that there is someone of superior intellect and vaster knowledge and experience than he has. After all he was the one who started a poll to find out who the most helpful member was and I was greatly amused to find that the whole thing backfired on him when the chap he hated the most topped the poll. HIS poll! Yes, indeed. He must have felt quite a fool when that happened. However I am far too tactful to call him a fool. No. A blithering idiot will do just fine. I would ask him to look at the amount of knowledge and wisdom videomannerman has contributed to this site over the years and compare it with his own contributions which as far as I can see amount to zilch. |
mannersmakethman New user 7 Posts |
As for the "cheap books" every single one of them has received rave reviews and are considered classics in their field. When Dynamike produces equally good works of literature perhaps we can respect his opinion. Until that time I would suggest his presence would be improved by his absence.
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