I am highly intrigued. I have the same magic makers cups and they look like crap, think I'll give it a go with them, as for the sherwoods maybe I'll just take them in the hot tub with me to jump start the tarnishing process, happens to my wifes rings all the time when she forgets to take them off.

If you have a buffing wheel, you can always buff off any patina that is applied. You can't always use a metal polish or cleaner to remove the patina. As I said before, I am a big fan of the chemical patinas. They are easy to use, and come out with great results. It did take me some trial and error with application...but if the finish turned out bad, I just buffed it off, and started again.

A salt and vinegar solution works for regular patina and it also works for liver of sulpher, though I have n oidea if it works for other (chemical_ patina's....

Thanks all for your comments. Bri kindly sent me a pdf that I did a while back that describes in more detail how I patinised the cups. I'd be very happy to share if you send me a PM.

I seem to remember a while back seeing some great results using washing detergent (Bruce - was that on your site?)

Richard