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Dynamike
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Which card flourish is the hardest for you to accomplish? Mine is The Boomerang.
Pablo Tejero
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Mine are some crazy things like the Cobra Cut and things like that.

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I was recently talking to a friend and we rendered things like the cobra cut useless. As we are in the magic business, going to restaurants and corporate functions etc., what is the point in learning something like that, when at the end of the day it is not practical, and will not be useful in the real world? I think this starts an important thread. I would like to hear views, on what is practical and what is not in the real world. For me, you need:

A decent DL
A palm
A control

A few other things chucked in and you can do miracles.
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Dynamike, VERY nice looking ssistants.
My favorite flourishes would be at this moment in time:

Crossed Cobras, Curly Q and Simple Switch.

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On 2003-11-19 07:14, K_B_G wrote:
Dynamike VERY nice looking assistants.

Yes, I know, how do you think I got my name? Just kidding.

I'll tell them you said "Hi."
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I'm still practicing the speed of my sybil cuts.
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While I don't have a lot of flourishes down. I do enjoy seeing them performed and do perform a few. Ones that I've been working on are the Curly Q and the LePaul Spread. I have also been working on my two handed pressure fan. I have trouble with this fan as I am used to springing cards from my thumb as opposed to my finger tips (I've heard this helps).


In regards to those that think flourishes are not practical, I agree with a good friend that has been around the block more than once. He told me that as card performers, laypeople often expect us to handle the cards with grace and in ways they may have never seen. In a way, proving that we are very familiar with the props we use. I think using them at the right times also adds to the mental confusion of how we obtain our affects.

Spec:"Well, if he/she can handle playing cards like that, there's no telling what else he/she can do with them." Just my thoughts. Smile Lee.
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Instant Replay or Hot Shot Cut. I can't do either but I've tried and they are really hard.
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Cobra cut type stuff is NOT easy, also some of the card acrobatics (like the hot shot cut) I have very little control over.

I like flourishes; I don't know a LOT, but the ones I do, I feel I do pretty well... That said, I RARELY do them in the context of magic performance.

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On 2003-11-19 18:53, leefoley3 wrote:
I think using them at the right times also adds to the mental confusion of how we obtain our affects.

Spec: "Well, if he/she can handle playing cards like that, there's no telling what else he/she can do with them." Just my thoughts. Smile Lee.


I understand what you're saying but that is the very same reason I don't do many flourishy moves--I don't want the specs to have a clue what is happening, I aim more for total invisibility of method (not that I ever GET it!) If I can achieve sleight of hand without that being even a remote possibility in the spec's mind, then I think that's when I've really done my job well.

If you can blow someone's mind & make people believe you are using a trick deck when you're actually using a regular deck...and you can then SHOW them it's a regular deck--yeah--that's what it's all about. Smile
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Cobra are great in the real world for table hopping and coporate events just like De'vo uses it. But you must have the right presentation! The proper presentation is supposed to be released on the Cobra DVD.
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Curly cue move is not only hard but frustrating because once you can do the LePaul spread you figure this will come easy. I saw it first done by a magician in the early eighties and it was perfect so I know it can be done.
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LePaul Spread (getting there)
One handed riffle shuffle (cannot weave the cards together consistently)
Curly Cue Move (I just plain suck at this)

These are 3 flourishes that I currently can't do to save my life (good thing such a circumstance has not presented itself). However, I'm not very good at flourishes in general anyway (which is why I am so proud to have mastered Instant Replay/Simple Switch as it's pretty much the only flourish that I can do well). Regardless, my stubbornness will keep me going.
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Cobra Cuts all the way people! Although I am having a heck of a time perfecting the LePaul Spread Smile
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Okay, at first I wasn't going to reply to this thread but these are my thoughts and as well something that should be said.

THE COBRA CUT IS NOT ANYONES BUT DEVO'S at this point if you are copying it you are doing it wrong and probably poorly. The person that said I am a magician and have no use for stuff like this. Well I am a full time pro and I must say that if it is done at the right time and with the right attention to the routine, it will do nothing but add to the ENTERTAINMENT value of your show or set.

I have always use several flourishes in my close-up set but I have reason and motive for it. The audiences love it if it is done well and for a reason. Just my thoughts. And we all have them. Smile
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Oh Crossed Cobras all the way
is a "jaws droped" for everyone.

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Hot shot cut for me. I do a version that Laymen think is incredible, but seasoned Magi would fall off their Wizard brooms laughing. Sort of a cross between Ammar's Swivel Roo cut meets Daryl's hot shot cut.
It works for me.
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The 30 packets display is really difficult.
It's crazy.

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On 2003-11-19 21:58, bigchuck wrote:
Cobra cut type stuff is NOT easy, also some of the card acrobatics (like the hot shot cut) I have very little control over.

I like flourishes; I don't know a LOT, but the ones I do, I feel I do pretty well... That said, I RARELY do them in the context of magic performance.

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On 2003-11-19 18:53, leefoley3 wrote:
I think using them at the right times also adds to the mental confusion of how we obtain our affects.

Spec: "Well, if he/she can handle playing cards like that, there's no telling what else he/she can do with them." Just my thoughts. Smile Lee.


I understand what you're saying but that is the very same reason I don't do many flourishy moves--I don't want the specs to have a clue what is happening, I aim more for total invisibility of method (not that I ever GET it!) If I can achieve sleight of hand without that being even a remote possibility in the spec's mind, then I think that's when I've really done my job well.

If you can blow someone's mind & make people believe you are using a trick deck when you're actually using a regular deck...and you can then SHOW them it's a regular deck--yeah--that's what it's all about. Smile
If you can blow someone's mind & make people believe you are using a trick deck when you're actually using a regular deck...and you can then SHOW them it's a regular deck--yeah--that's what it's all about. Smile

I agree, there is nothing I get more pleasure in than doing that exact thing to people. I actualy aim to make people want to see the deck such as when I do ambitious card I don't tell them to sign it. I just let them see the deck if they think I'm using duplicates. Smile Smile
Liam Jones
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I would say either the Porcupine from Capcuts or King Cobra from Superhandz
Andini
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Ya know, those one-handed card fans are pretty impossible! Smile

Actually, I'm having a lot of trouble with the one-handed shuffle. I can get close but never a decent one. I have no need to do it though. Most people are amazed by the one-handed cut! Smile
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