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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Goodbye GDW,
Me now speak GDW talk bizarro GDW think if no know law and break law then no law break Bizarro think you solipsist ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEN7TkBbtGo ) Me believe you again that we speak law vs. decision not to abide by law GDW agree there is law but think they stupid laws Me think GDW saying copying other peoples stuffs OK by him Me think that is piracy is not? On Bizarro world this OK This world, methink superman smash you in noggin and lock you in jail if break law... Oh, bizarrobats says you get fined and go jail. Me think that good! Burden of action on the copier not the author, to determine rights on your world. Reversed on Bizarro world. Hello
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
Wow. Just, wow.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
Be careful. You don't want to tread on DCs intellectual property with Bizarro there.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts |
So.
I see that Schwood has not yet sold 100 copies of either book yet, even though the pre-order has been going on for some time now. It's only been 5 days officially, but his fans had a head start. I would have thought that something would have sold 100 by now and gone up to $150, seeing as how it is so great. And I'm not being sarcastic- it certainly must be pretty good. Any word, on any page, if I remember correctly. But a big one, of course, and not a character name. |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
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On 2013-03-11 22:25, gdw wrote: Me tell them me get it from you so is ok (Me also see me fair use using for me posting as earth world say)
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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DanHarlan V.I.P. 998 Posts |
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Dan, the entire purpose behind the idea of intellectual property is to be able to treat it like physical property. Yes, now you're getting close to understanding that a definition needed to be created for assets of a non-physical nature to be protected. A means by which we may treat them as physical property for the purpose of protecting the creator's interests yet allowing others to make use of "original expressions." Knowing that they are not physical, we create a system which defines them as "not copyable" except under controlled circumstances. These "expressions" do not have the physical property of one-ness, so we attempt to afford them some... oh, fek dis, I'm fekkin tired... g'night. --Dan Harlan |
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
I think Mr. Harlan has a name for a new trick "fek dis".
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MovieMan Special user 569 Posts |
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On 2013-03-11 22:24, gdw wrote: Deja vu. http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=7884617 So what about the book test, anyway? Any good, or is he stealing ideas and republishing pirated tomes? |
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1609 Posts |
GDW - I'm still struggling to understand your arguments and their implications. So help me out - are you saying that the following is morally acceptable, should be legally acceptable, and does not constitute theft of any kind?
I pick up a second-hand copy of a Harry Potter book from a trash can, or buy one from my local charity shop, or I am given the book as a birthday present. I then decide to print and sell my own copies of the book, perhaps even putting my own name as author on the cover. A simple "Yes" or "No" will suffice. Mike |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 03:15, MovieMan wrote: That was actually in reference to, surprisingly, something completely different and unrelated.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
If you guys want to talk about the ins and outs of copyright law then please head over to 'Right or Wrong?' where you can discuss this matter to your hearts content.
However, if you're here to discuss Brian Brushyourwood's book test then please stick around. I predict some very interesting developments soon.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 05:18, Michael Daniels wrote: A simple yes or no won't answer the question as you brought up many things in the question. Theft, no, however one could argue fraud, once you're claiming you wrote it. It also would a big waste of money under a system without IP law today. The money you would put into printing them would make no sense financially, especially considering JK Rowling would already have been first to market, and people would be able to get the book digitally at little to no cost. See the aforementioned time code in PressPlay,Pause, 21:05, for real life example.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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bole New user Watching you since 88 Posts |
For there are so many experts around here: Is reading a book basically creating an illegal copy in your mind?
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 07:43, bole wrote: Only if you copy your mind with that material and sell it!!!! Rekall. Rekall rekaaaaaalllllll (Yay page 9 -11 to go french drop.... Hmmm 911. This thread is a disaster isn't it????)
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 07:36, Jamie Ferguson wrote: Ok where is the envelope? The prediction is useless unless you post it ahead of time! It's like when I posted someone was going to invoke hitler soon with a post on reduction hitlerism sure enough it happened... Post the prediction!!!! Also, even if everyone copies it afterwards and sells it, then you can show chronologically the first post prediction was yours!!!!!
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 07:55, Dr Spektor wrote: REAL psychics are always vague. It's how they maintain their mystique.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts |
Yesterday I downloaded 5 PDF's from Cameron Francis- I got a great deal on them- $5 for all 5! Well worth the money! (By the way- you can get them up until 11:59PM tonight for $1 each! Go ahead and do it! http://cameronfrancismagic.com/1-for-1-sale.php )
I can print out as many copies as I want now. Hundreds of them at no cost to me. (My boss will pay for it!) I can put my name down as the author of the effects (I have the ability to do that using various computer programs), and sell them here and on eBay for $20 shipped and possibly make a decent amount of money. All it will cost me is about $2 for shipping. Can I do this, gdw? Don't worry, Cameron and everyone else here- I am NOT going to do this! But I think that gdw believes that I have a right to do this. Am I correct, gdw? Or am I wrong? |
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1609 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 07:41, gdw wrote: It seems to me that you are side-stepping the moral questions by falling back on economic considerations. OK, let's suppose I don't put my name on the copies I print and sell (so that it isn't fraud), and I am also willing to risk losing money on the venture. Are you saying that what I am doing is morally acceptable, should be legally acceptable, and does not constitute theft of any kind? Mike |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2013-03-12 10:00, Michael Daniels wrote: Yes, it is "morally" acceptable (though perhaps not necessarily morally praiseworthy,) and should, IMO, be "legal." There was no intent to side step that, and I apologize if it came across that way, though I did say in my initial answer "[is it] theft, no". If it helps, to expand upon the question of "is it theft," well, is the original writer missing something after? Do they possess any less "property" after wards? Similarly, have you actually TAKEN anything? What property does the author no longer have after it has apparently been "stolen?" Theft is defined as the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it. In this case, the author is deprived of nothing, as they have every thing they had before you copied the book. If they never knew you copied the book, then there would be no indication, as they still have everything. This is different than if you steal a pen, for example, and, for argument's sake, the person just never knows, as they are still deprived of the use of that pen, whether they notice or not. The author, in the case of their book, is deprived of nothing. They still possess every single thing they started with.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
If the above argument was not so patently stupid, it would be worth responding to in detail. As it is, gdw, see if you can work out why that is so idiotic.
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