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Lastly, with regard to "hurting" the pitchman, it's called competition. The pitchman is also "hurt" by anyone who provides the same products for less than him. He's also "hurt" by people who are better at selling.
You can't "steal" sales from someone by providing an alternative. Burger King isn't "stealing" from McDonald's, nor is a charity "stealing" from them when they are giving away food for free.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.
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On 2013-03-08 16:34, gdw wrote: Now that's a good point there...didn't think about Brian's "target" audience. It's actually not the public at large (such as the Masked Moron). (Obviously still rather him not expose...but you got a point there.)
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Stucky![]() Inner circle I'm Batman! 1352 Posts ![]() |
Don is correct. I was making a point about another comment that was equally as harmful and ridiculous. Wishing permanent harm on someone over something like exposure of a card trick is a bit over the top and if he saw that would likely not appreciate it.
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Ray Haining![]() Inner circle Hot Springs, AR 1841 Posts ![]() |
BrianMillerMagic makes a good point. I, for one, am going to stop posting on anything that mentions his name, unless, of course, it is to join others in lamenting the fact that he has been elected president of the American Society of Magicians. If you think it couldn't happen, look at the career of Penn and Teller, the king and originators of this exposure stuff, who are now respectable and honored members of the magical community.
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Don Dasher![]() Special user 535 Posts ![]() |
I wouldn't compare Brushwood to Penn and Teller as much as I would compare him to someone else nobody liked for a long time...
Hitler. I would compare Brian Brushwood to Adolf Hitler. DD |
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On 2013-03-08 20:02, Don Dasher wrote: See BB's BT thread... I knew it... I knew it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
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Jamie Ferguson![]() Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3642 Posts ![]() |
Now THAT was a prediction
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gdw![]() Inner circle 4816 Posts ![]() |
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On 2013-03-08 17:07, Matt Adams wrote: Wow, thanks. Sorry, that's just incredible to see, especially in an online discussion, lol.
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On 2013-03-08 20:26, gdw wrote: LOL. I know some folks argue just to argue. But that's incredibly foolish if you ask me. It's extremely unlikely that the "other side" has NO valid points. How ludicrous (and arrogant) to think we have the all the answers! You are also right, unfortunately, in that this is very rare online. But it's also rare in "real life" - people just don't want to say "You're right" But they should! Heck, the moment I find out something I'm believing isn't quite spot-on, I'm changing that to follow Truth. ![]() Unfortunately, Truth is hard for many people to recognize. :-P
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gdw![]() Inner circle 4816 Posts ![]() |
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On 2013-03-09 08:27, Matt Adams wrote: That is such a wonderful, and refreshing attitude to see, and you're roht, sadly seen rarely in real life too. It can be wonderful to change your mind.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.
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Jamie Ferguson![]() Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3642 Posts ![]() |
I never change my mind.
Actually, yes I do.
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On 2013-03-09 11:01, Jamie Ferguson wrote: This is idea of Jamie's humour Predictable ! |
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As is JackMagic's nonsensical sentence construction.
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Don Dasher![]() Special user 535 Posts ![]() |
LOL. Maybe he just didn't think you were worth arguing with.
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On 2013-03-08 20:02, Don Dasher wrote: Godwin's Law. You're done here; move along. So, only 3 pages in, and I've already had to endure someone making light of cancer (my mother has cancer, fyi - and I'm sure I'm not the only one with a connection) and someone saying that Brushwood revealing the ID is bad enough that he should be compared to being Hitler (take notice of my location, you'll see why I'm offended). I've seen a lot of threads around here go on much longer than they should have - this is definitely one of them. The OP got his answer; it should have ended there. And now the more comments and replies on here only make this thread more and more worthless. Before commenting further, read this: Quote:
On 2013-03-08 16:38, BrianMillerMagic wrote: Then do yourself a favour, and just turn elsewhere. There's nothing to see here besides grumpy ol' men making horribly tasteless jokes and others bickering over 'ethics'. I'm just as upset about Brushwood revealing the ID - but posting here, and raising this threads "Googlibility", is only doing more harm than good. (Bear in mind, when Googling the names of magic effects, the Café is usually the first in the list of results - and most of the time, there's plenty of reveal going on. This thread will suffer the same fate - stop adding to it.) Dobranoc.
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Jamie Ferguson![]() Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3642 Posts ![]() |
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On 2013-03-09 17:12, ©NathanaelBergenMagic wrote: :applause: Listen to Dobranoc folks.The guy talks sense. Time to move along now. Nothing to see here.
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Matt Adams![]() Special user Harvest, AL 827 Posts ![]() |
But just for the sake of arguing (which I never do? haha, yeah right...), aren't we prolonging a stupid thread by commenting "move along" over and over?
Nevermind...We're done. Move along.
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writeall![]() Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts ![]() |
So talking about the ID in this thread is on par with the youtube video we've been talking about? Have you seen that video?
The only difference between what I know in magic and what a raw punter knows is that I took the time or spent the money to find things out. That's it. The value comes from the difficulty and the effort expended. Maybe it was tracking down a book in a library or paying to attend a convention -- some barrier to separate the casually curious from the serious. So, yeah, putting it on Youtube is too easy. It's as easy as showing someone "how it works" right after you've shown the effect. I don't demand CIA-level secrecy. All I want is to make things a little bit hard. All "exposure" isn't equivalent. Not by a mile. |
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gdw![]() Inner circle 4816 Posts ![]() |
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On 2013-03-09 17:12, ©NathanaelBergenMagic wrote: Actually, no one was making light of cancer. The post which brought cancer was doing so to point out the wrong in wishing harm, as done by a previous poster, whom most seem to have completely ignored in favour of taking the cancer reference completely out of context.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.
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