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On 2013-03-08 14:40, tommy wrote:
All passengers etcetera should be issued with a Jim Bowie knife when going on air planes, so that when these hijackers try it on the innocent passengers can cut them to shreds without bringing down the plane.


You might want to confer with Archie Bunker, as you both have similar ideas. Unfortunately, he is not dead.
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First of all I can think of fat more than half a dozen ways to kill people without weapons.

The point is that this move will add to the lines at TSA. Why do it?

Also in first class you get real silverware. Stubby knives but they could hurt.

Andrew sorry of makes a point. Why make it easier? Was the public really in an uproar not bringing on poverty knives? I just get confused.
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Yes I was going to post that clip. It is hilarious.
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A cook was butchering an ox for Duke Wen Hui.
The places his hand touched,
His shoulder leaned against,
His foot stepped on,
His knee pressed upon,
Came apart with a sound.

He moved the blade, making a noise
That never fell out of rhythm.
It harmonized with the Mulberry Woods Dance,
Like music from ancient times.

Duke Wen Hui exclaimed: "Ah! Excellent!
Your skill has advanced to this level?"

"What I follow is Tao,
The cook puts down the knife and answered:
Which is beyond all skills.
"When I started butchering,
What I saw was nothing but the whole ox.
After three years,
I no longer saw the whole ox.

"Nowadays, I meet it with my mind
Rather than see it with my eyes.
My sensory organs are inactive
While I direct the mind's movement.

"It goes according to natural laws,
Striking apart large gaps,
Moving toward large openings,
Following its natural structure.

"Even places where tendons attach to bones
Give no resistance,
Never mind the larger bones!

"A good cook goes through a knife in a year,
Because he cuts.
An average cook goes through a knife in a month,
Because he hacks.

"I have used this knife for nineteen years.
It has butchered thousands of oxen,
But the blade is still like it's newly sharpened.

"The joints have openings,
And the knife's blade has no thickness.
Apply this lack of thickness into the openings,
And the moving blade swishes through,
With room to spare!

"That's why after nineteen years,
The blade is still like it's newly sharpened.

"Nevertheless, every time I come across joints,
I see its tricky parts,
I pay attention and use caution,
My vision concentrates,
My movement slows down.

"I move the knife very slightly,
Whump! It has already separated.
The ox doesn't even know it's dead,
and falls to the ground like mud.

"I stand holding the knife,
And look all around it.
The work gives me much satisfaction.
I clean the knife and put it away."

Duke Wen Hui said: "Excellent!
I listen to your words,
And learn a principle of life."


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On 2013-03-08 14:32, balducci wrote:
It is only "feigned concern" if Bob was aware that screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length) and other such items were presently allowed. I suspect that most people here, Bob included, were not (I wasn't). Were you, prior to the last few days? Actually, a five or six inch screwdriver worries me much more than a pen knife.


Absolutely. One of those darned side effects of being educated about my government.
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On 2013-03-08 15:34, Andrew Zuber wrote:
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On 2013-03-07 23:14, RobertSmith wrote:
There's a half dozen or more ways to seriously injure or kill someone on an airplane without a knife.

This isn't a big deal.

So let's allow knives back on planes, thus raising the number of available methods. Sounds like a good plan.


Andrew, I hate to burst the bubble in your little utopia, but knives make it on aircraft all the time.
Carbon fiber knives go onto airplanes every day and are virtually undetectable by the TSA.

And yes, even real scary black assault knives make it on board by accident. I know from experience.
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On 2013-03-08 15:52, Dannydoyle wrote:

The point is that this move will add to the lines at TSA. Why do it?

Why do it? Because of passenger complaints, I imagine.

"The TSA claims this policy will benefit passengers, citing the 850 pounds of banned goods that are surrendered at checkpoints each month."

Also, presumably, to actually speed the lines by freeing up the time the confiscation of these banned goods takes. Time will tell whether or not the TSA is right or wrong or just full of it.
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I'll tell you right now the TSA is full of it.
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They allow Chuck Norris on planes and he is more deadly than knifes.
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On 2013-03-07 20:27, Steve_Mollett wrote:
Okay on the knife, but we still have to confiscate the bottle of water.


:) Smile

My friend (pilot for flybe) had his tuna sandwich confiscated ...... "As it comes in a liquid" ...... By a jumped up security guard. It makes me laugh cus he can't carry on a nail clipper but 3 foot behind where he sits is a dirty great fire axe! Gotta chuckle!

Oh well, at least it's not occurred to him to crash the big tube with w!ngs into something! But at least he won't be able to take it over with nail clippers..... Smile
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On 2013-03-08 07:34, Woland wrote:
The danger is not that knives can be used to penetrate the cockpit, but that, as on September Eleventh, knives could be used to terrorize and kill passengers and cabin crew, threatening the pilot that unless he opened the door, etc. It is unlikely, however, that such a gambit would work nowadays.

Especially if all of the other passengers were armed with knives of their own.
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On 2013-03-08 14:40, tommy wrote:
All passengers etcetera should be issued with a Jim Bowie knife when going on air planes, so that when these hijackers try it on the innocent passengers can cut them to shreds without bringing down the plane.

So now you're borrowing ideas from Archie Bunker? (In the '70s he had a plan to curtail plane hijackings: all passengers would be issued a handgun when they embarked, and would return it when they disembarked.)
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On 2013-03-08 15:44, Chessmann wrote:
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On 2013-03-08 14:40, tommy wrote:
All passengers etcetera should be issued with a Jim Bowie knife when going on air planes, so that when these hijackers try it on the innocent passengers can cut them to shreds without bringing down the plane.

You might want to confer with Archie Bunker, as you both have similar ideas. Unfortunately, he is not dead.

Yes he is.
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On 2013-03-07 20:27, Steve_Mollett wrote:
Okay on the knife, but we still have to confiscate the bottle of water.


This has nothing to do with security. Airport vendors (who are after security) banded together and got water added to the list, so they could sell water for $5.
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Is there a sources for this or.just a theory?
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It's just my theory.
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I don't agree with the knives on the plane. Now I got to stand in line for an extra hour while they measure blades? I'm just hoping the 100 plus people sitting around me are on my side!
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On 2013-03-08 17:07, S2000magician wrote:
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On 2013-03-08 07:34, Woland wrote:
The danger is not that knives can be used to penetrate the cockpit, but that, as on September Eleventh, knives could be used to terrorize and kill passengers and cabin crew, threatening the pilot that unless he opened the door, etc. It is unlikely, however, that such a gambit would work nowadays.

Especially if all of the other passengers were armed with knives of their own.


But then they'd just start killing each other. Randomly stabbing and slicing everyone in a case of mistaken identity.

Or wait, does that magic spell only work with guns?
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On 2013-03-08 21:27, HowaboutBob wrote:
I don't agree with the knives on the plane. Now I got to stand in line for an extra hour while they measure blades? I'm just hoping the 100 plus people sitting around me are on my side!


Ah the freedom of driving across this beautiful country of ours. I understand time constraints don't always allow that. However, I drive probably 90% of the time and I love pretty much everything about it.
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