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RogueTxn New user Texas 56 Posts |
Years and years ago I saw someone on television, I think it may have been Hary Anderson, do a short chapeagraphy routine. Its a great bit of fun with nothing more than a large felt ring, quickly making a variety of hats. This may fall more under the 'clowning' category. Does anyone know of chapeagraphy that could point me in a reliable direction to learn more?
And yes, I've already been googling and binging the heck out of it. Not wanting to 'buy a pig in a poke' as it were I thought to ask and see if I could receive guidance. Thanks in advance ~Rogue |
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
Eleazar's Magic section at The Magic Nook has the beginnings of his book on "Hat Rings." He never finished the entire book, but you can find his work on Black Hat Rings as well as some Christmas Color Hat Rings and see where he was taking this old form of entertainment to bring it up to date. He's young yet, so maybe he'll finish it. In the meantime, he also has a source book for sale on where he learned to make his hat rings.
Jim Gerrish
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts |
Illustrated Magic by Fischer has a chapter and some illustrations, a book you can find pretty cheap.
Or you can go here: http://www.lybrary.com/magic-chapeaugraphy-c-21_49.html If you sign up for a free membership at Lybrary.com, you will have access to a lot of free material in the Pig section and access to a lot of other neat stuff as suggested above.
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5943 Posts |
I tried this many years ago. If I can find the manuscript you can have it with pleasure. The reason I stopped doing it was that even 30 years ago all the "hats" were very old fashioned and bear in mind this act was popular duting an era when people actually wore hats, I have to say as well tht the hats were not very convincing. I will have a look tomorrow and see if I can find it, maybe someone has a more up to date routine with it, good luck
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RogueTxn New user Texas 56 Posts |
THanks one and all! George, even when I saw Harry Anderson's take on it it was dated yes, but with a bit of imagination and the proper story telling I'm thinking this could well be updated.
Sparky - Didn't think of checking the library, shame on me! Jim - Many thanks for that as well! ~Rogue |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Rogue.....
I did Chapeaugraphy for about 12-15 years (I can't remember when I dropped the routine, I could look it up. I have a file of instructions frow 'way back'. I can't get out to my storage facility until the weekend. (8' snowbanks) I did a half dozen hats only. I got the idea for doing it from old friend Tommy Windsor in a TOPS ANNUAL about 1961 or 2. Tommy's idea was to make the hate and put them on a kid from the audience. (Tommy didn't want his own hair 'messed up'. It played very well. Audience identified with the kid . I remember now, why I took it out. A school I played had had an "epidemic" of head lice. They told me that I could inadvertently be spreading the bugs!. Anyway, if you like, I'll bundle up the material that I have, and mail it (snail mail). I would want it back eventually, but you could xerox anything that might be useful. I agree with the notes above on hats being out of date, etc. If you want to look over the stuff, lemme know and PM me your mailing address. Yr's, 'til the square circle is empty..... O
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RogueTxn New user Texas 56 Posts |
Done! You've got a PM Dick!
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Before I forget--The best Chapeaus I found were Abbott' They come only in black, and they are the right "weight" (thickness of material).
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RogueTxn New user Texas 56 Posts |
Unless I'm searching wrong, I'll most likely have to find the felt and make my own felt ring. I checked Abbott Magic and am not finding it there either.
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts |
Try here, it is more of a British isles and French thing nowadays
http://www.magicbookshop.co.uk/a/24127_C......ook.html They may have the material
Et tu, Spartacus?
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
I don't think that felt would hold up. I'm surprised that Abbotts doesn't have it in their catalog. For years, I think they were the only ones making it. I'll try to check it out with Greg Bordner.
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts |
Write to these people and see if they come up with it.
http://www.themagicdepot.com/product_inf......_id=3016 BTW, the picture in that ad comes from the book Illustrated Magic, by Fischer or this from Madhatter. The guy in the picture is Phillip Morris who use to do spook shows and now owns Morris Costumes, also a magic wholesaler. http://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop/......_id=6446 try to keep up, Oslund.....
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
Eleazar was using "polar fleece" instead of felt. Very tough and very flexible and very wrinkle resistant. Besides, it comes in many different colors besides black.
Jim Gerrish
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RogueTxn New user Texas 56 Posts |
Jimgerrish, polar fleece! I'll keep an eye out!
Sparky - I have no idea why I didn't find those in my search but sure enough I didn't. I'll wait and see what ol Uncle Dick has shipped my way then see what direction I need to head in but I can't thank all ya'll enough for jumping in so eagerly to help! ~Rogue |
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts |
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On 2013-03-16 01:47, RogueTxn wrote: The only direction you'll need to head is towards the doorway when you open the box, can't imagine the smell that will come out of it. As far as helping, wait till you get the bill.
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RogueTxn New user Texas 56 Posts |
How is it Dick has allowed you to continue breathing at this point?
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts |
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On 2013-03-16 19:07, RogueTxn wrote: Mr. Oslund,in his earlier years, hung out with and was friends with some the worlds greatest comedic magicians, like Karrell Fox and Jay Marshall just to name two, but there was many more. One does not hang out with these greats unless you have a sense of humor to match. I know he recognizes my material, where it is from and what it means. Too often people go through life, mean and grumpy at everything and everyone around them. People like this die at an early age because they do not appreciate what they have, or other people. I was a family therapist off and on for 35 years. I've heard every poor me story that ever existed over and over, hundreds of times. Same stuff, people don't like their jobs, their spouse, their children, their parents, drunks, drug addicts and so on. Both of my parents were alcoholics, that led to my decision to not drink. In all of this I decided to be happy with what I have, to have fun and to help others when I can. I am a volunteer with the Wounded Warrior Project, do occasional hospital shows and other community projects like volunteer fireman. I have diabetes, am old, and I will probably die soon. But I'm going to do it with a smile on my face. I have the greatest respect for Mr. Oslund, and he knows it. Hopefully, we will have fun together before we die.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN!::: --and anyone else interested!
That's the real, honest to goodness, genuine Sparky. We tease back and forth, each attempting to "top" the other. I've only known him for about 3 months--and it seems like years already! HEE HEE. Remember Don Lawton's line?: "We've been married 50 years as of yesterday! And you know what a miserable day yesterday was! I didn't know what happiness was, until I married--and then it was too late!" We lost Don way too soon. His mutilated parasol routine is one of the BIGGEST laughs in my act.I changed the lines to fit my style and my audiences, but the basic routine is his! I bless his name every time I open the parasol case. On the "seriouser" side, that MAGIC DEPOT AD sure looks good and the price appears reasonable. RE: My mention of felt "holding up" I sold my chapeaus some years back. I dimly recall that they seemed to be like a thick overcoat material. Possibly they were "felt" but it was quite thick, possibly 1/4". When you first mentioned felt, my mind pictured the sort of felt available in craft stores which is usually much thinner. I just remembered...it helps to stay as topical as possible with the names of the characters. When the 'FLYING NUN' was big on TV, I always finished with that. BIG laugh and BIG mitt. I hope to find a box tomorrow Terry, and barring another 2 feet of the white precip., I'll try to entrust it to the USPS on Monday. (I'll have it fumigated before shipping.) Hey Rube! It's gonna be a real "clem"! --grab a stske and come running! That bunch of punks have grabbed the half and half. We wont have a blow-off tomorrow!
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts |
The other line was, "WE were happily married until she wanted to have a conversation."
And as for the other stuff written above, "There's one born every minute."
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RogueTxn New user Texas 56 Posts |
Sparky - I appreciate the glimpse at the man behind the curtain there. Please, do take most everything I say with a grain of salt. If that won't do, move up in size to a salt lick if required. I have observed a special bond between you and Dick from the moment I signed into the Café for the first time. At the ripe old age of 46 I am old enough and wise enough to know I'm not that old nor wise. However, life shouldn't be measured so much in years but the milage you put on the chassis and I certainly feel as if most of my milage was obtained off road. Having been through the medical wringer the past few years, Acute Pancreatitis, onset of diabetes, pancreas operation, massive heart attack, heart failure, double bypass with mechanical mitral valve installed, onset of chronic pancreatitis, diabetes escalating to major insulin dependence, pancreatitis escalating to large doses of morphine mutliple times a day for pain control I am now as of the past 6 months medically retired. Don't wish to be, my body had other plans. With all that, the pain is kept at bay most days where I can function and function well within society. This leaves me with way too much time on my hands. Which led me to reinvestigate both my love of the theater, doing community theatre plays, a well as rekindling my love of magic and the desire to learn more and improve. Who knows I might be able to brush up my skills enough to table hop and make a few coins. Having rambled on in the early hours of the morning, which one certainly should not do, I tip my hat to both you and Dick. I have nothing but the utmost respect for you both.
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