yea you just defined how the show Ancient Aliens is scripted on the History channel.

But that is not sad and disgusting like what we are talking about here.

I'm not getting your point. People are wounded and the footage gets released. People (kids or not) are killed and the footage does NOT get released. Can you show me an incident where people (kids or not) were KILLED and the footage got released quickly?

Lee Harvey Oswald.

Do your own legwork Ed, there is an internet ya know and I'm not suggesting showing little kids videos of little kids getting killed, but showing the school video to grown adults that can handle such acts of violence.

Question Everything!

I'm.not sure we need to question everything.

First off if you adress me spell my name correctly and second off don't dare twist my words

You are in the wrong place if you don't want your words twisted.

Plus internet tough guy phrases such as "don't you dare" really look silly.

Foreva.infiniti
I'll have you know that I am famous for my bad spelling. Second of all there are a lot of off the wall cooks at the not very magical still forum, and it seems that I misunderstood your post. Please disregard my previous post, and accept my sincere apology.

This thread is starting to remind me of the "sovereign citizens" discussion we had a while back.

Oh, man! Those were good times.

I like the way that no matter what good ol Al answers with hate.

No need to apologize because I was in the wrong. I shouldnt had responded in that manner.

So...when do you all think the Sandy Hook school surveillance video's will be shown? If all is kosher then someday the videos should be released to public view at one point or another right?

C'mon...show the videos...

I still haven't had a chance to watch the vid, but surely, out of consideration for the parents and relatives of those who died, surveillance videos and other footage should never be shown publicly.

I really think it's too fantastic an idea that this event could possibly have been faked, or even deliberately orchestrated for some kind of political agenda.

If there were even a grain of truth in that, well, we'd be better off all going back to the Stone Age.

I'm cynical - very cynical - but even I can't imagine there's a conspiracy here. Perhaps I'll change my mind if and when I watch the footage.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

The Craven

Joseph Goebbels

"Political language...is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." – George Orwell

Two great quotes there...

Hmmm. Very, very strange. I have watched the video, and found it rather compelling evidence. I also read the debunking posted, and found it unbelievable. It's just not conceivable that several Facebook pages were coincidentally created days before the shootings, and then re-named in the aftermath. that's the most difficult thing to accept.

I also agree that the parents don't look like they've really lost their children. In all honesty, I can't imagine parents having this demeanour, so soon after such a horrendous incident. They should look exhausted and tired, bags under their eyes, red marks from the tears, etc. I saw no evidence of any of that.

And, it seems highly improbable that there wouldn't be more casualties, but nearly everyone gunned down, died. Unless the assassin was highly trained, a lot more of the kids would have survived.

But most unlikely of all, is the demeanour of the kids interviewed. They would be seriously traumatised, in tears, and barely able to make a comprehensible statement. In the interviews, every kid appears to be just "acting out a part".

I have to admit, that it does look like the whole thing was an "excercise", and those taking part were merely acting.

But, if this is true, one has to ask "why"? And, surely there are so many people involved, in a short time, some of them will come forward to disabuse the public of their deceit.

Is it really possible that a whole community might have agreed/decided to create such a horrendous lie? I can't say it's impossible, but it's a terrifying thought.

I would argue that, for the sake of an interesting debate, it would be worthwhile to discuss how such a scenario might be possible, it's purpose, the rationale and background that might enable it, etc. So, if the Sandy Hook Shootings were faked, what does it mean?

This really does bother me, I don't want to believe it was faked, and yet, I do. At least, if that turns out to be the case, it's one less horrendous massacre to attribute to our failing modern societies.

Frankly, I don't know what to believe. But in all honesty, I'm fairly convinced by the argument, and am now most curious to find out more.

The only thing that comes to my mind, is that the everyone involved was party to some kind of government scheme to "act out" this scenario, and have signed releases, to ensure that they won't spill the beans.

Yes, it would be better to discover that it was a hoax, perhaps to shock people into reconsidering their attitudes to guns. But equally, if that is the case, surely it should have been made public by now.

This one is really gonna mess with my head! But, if it was real, then in light of the considerable evidence to the contrary, something needs to be done, to establish it's veracity, for the sake of those who died, and their genuinely grieving families.

You know, kids can't hide the truth. This clip, of the Sandy Hook choir, just two months after the alleged shootings, shows a group of happy and contented schoolkids. Not only do they not look perturbed, I find it impossible to believe that if the shootings were real, they would have been off to sing at the Superbowl.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew......owl.html

It really does appear that the whole thing was orchestrated, and acted out. I feel nervous saying that, but just look at the kids' faces in the first few seconds. I simply don't believe that these kids faced a manic gunman two months previously.

If the shootings really happened, these kids have to be incredibly brave and resilient.

Kids are resilient.

If you have never seen these situations before it is easy to speculate what people should and should not act like.

Fact is you can't keep a secret between two people unless one of them is dead. Just think funerals and death certificates and tell me it is a drill. Killing that many cowering defenceless childrsn takes woefully little trai ing I am afraid. Circular logic does not help. You assume your conclusion and fit the evidence to that I stead of the other way round. Exactly what they warn against in the police academy.