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Yes Dennis if the president wants to know what I'm doing today he really needs a life.
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If you haven't figured it out yet Al, nobody cares what you are doing today.
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On 2013-06-10 09:35, Dennis Michael wrote:

BTW, did you know that in Maryland, they just pasted a "rain tax". Residents are taxed based on the amount of rain that falls on your property. Google it.



I did and came up with this http://somd.com/news/headlines/2013/16902.shtml

They are not being taxed on the amount of rain that fall, but the size and type of property they own. Revenues generated by this property tax goes to fund storm water utility fees so as to protect the Chesapeake Bay from environmental damage due to polluted run off from storm drains.

Sounds reasonable to me.
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Actually Dennis I'm visiting a sick magician friend today, and I intend to share secrets with him. LOL
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Al, see that box on the wall or by the bedside? NSA is listening! (Nurses STation)
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On 2013-06-10 12:01, Payne wrote:
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On 2013-06-10 09:35, Dennis Michael wrote:

BTW, did you know that in Maryland, they just pasted a "rain tax". Residents are taxed based on the amount of rain that falls on your property. Google it.



I did and came up with this http://somd.com/news/headlines/2013/16902.shtml

They are not being taxed on the amount of rain that fall, but the size and type of property they own. Revenues generated by this property tax goes to fund storm water utility fees so as to protect the Chesapeake Bay from environmental damage due to polluted run off from storm drains.

Sounds reasonable to me.


Guess your ox isn't being gored, eh?
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OK, OK, OK, "Rain Tax" is a talking point! It is what it is.
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On 2013-06-10 16:36, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote:

Guess your ox isn't being gored, eh?



I pay property taxes. Currently they don't support waste and storm water facilities. Those funds come out of my monthly water bill. But the money that I pay in property taxes goes to support schools I've never had kids in, sports stadiums I never go to, and parks I rarely visit. I see the value of paying taxes, even if the money goes for things I'll never use. Because these things make society a better, more liveable place.
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You mean that scowling jay who pointed at my grandpa and said, "You're drafted"?
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On 2013-06-09 21:04, Al Angello wrote:
Tommy & Lobo
The president now knows I told my wife what I'm ordering for dinner, and if you two want to know also I picked the chicken. Now move on there's nothing to see here.


I respectfully disagree. Below is a link to an interesting, if long, article from the Chronicle of Higher Education, entitled "Why privacy matters even when you have nothing to hide":

http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy....../127461/

I would posit that this subject is really too serious to make light of. My vote is to err on the side of voicing strong opposition to the hijacking of our rights, freedoms and privacies.

Be that as it may ... apparently you may be in the minority.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-......_242.xml

56% of Americans say yes ("acceptable") to: "As you may know, it has been reported that the National Security Agency has been getting secret court orders to track telephone call records of MILLIONS of Americans in an effort to investigate terrorism. Would you consider this access to telephone call records an acceptable or unacceptable way for the federal government to investigate terrorism?"

62% of Americans think intrusions on personal privacy in order to investigate terrorist threats are a-okay: "What do you think is more important right now - (for the federal government to investigate possible terrorist threats, even if that intrudes on personal privacy); or (for the federal government not to intrude on personal privacy, even if that limits its ability to investigate possible terrorist threats)?"
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An ex-CIA employee has said he acted to "protect basic liberties for people around the world" in leaking details of US phone and internet surveillance.

Mr Snowden told the Guardian: "The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting.
"If I wanted to see your emails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.
"I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things... I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under."

Mr Obama has defended the surveillance programmes, assuring Americans that nobody was listening to their calls.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22842837

New docs leaked show the National Security Agency has secretly gathered intelligence on millions of Americans for years.

http://rt.com/usa/anonymous-leaks-prism-nsa-docs-395/
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On 2013-06-10 07:26, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote:
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On 2013-06-09 21:04, Al Angello wrote:
Tommy & Lobo
The president now knows I told my wife what I'm ordering for dinner, and if you two want to know also I picked the chicken. Now move on there's nothing to see here.


I respectfully disagree. Below is a link to an interesting, if long, article from the Chronicle of Higher Education, entitled "Why privacy matters even when you have nothing to hide":

http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy....../127461/

I would posit that this subject is really too serious to make light of. My vote is to err on the side of voicing strong opposition to the hijacking of our rights, freedoms and privacies.

Be that as it may ... apparently you may be in the minority.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-......_242.xml

56% of Americans say yes ("acceptable") to: "As you may know, it has been reported that the National Security Agency has been getting secret court orders to track telephone call records of MILLIONS of Americans in an effort to investigate terrorism. Would you consider this access to telephone call records an acceptable or unacceptable way for the federal government to investigate terrorism?"

62% of Americans think intrusions on personal privacy in order to investigate terrorist threats are a-okay: "What do you think is more important right now - (for the federal government to investigate possible terrorist threats, even if that intrudes on personal privacy); or (for the federal government not to intrude on personal privacy, even if that limits its ability to investigate possible terrorist threats)?"


What do you think about waterboarding?
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On 2013-06-11 17:14, tommy wrote:
An ex-CIA employee has said he acted to "protect basic liberties for people around the world" in leaking details of US phone and internet surveillance.

Mr Snowden told the Guardian: "The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting.
"If I wanted to see your emails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.
"I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things... I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under."

Mr Obama has defended the surveillance programmes, assuring Americans that nobody was listening to their calls.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22842837

New docs leaked show the National Security Agency has secretly gathered intelligence on millions of Americans for years.

http://rt.com/usa/anonymous-leaks-prism-nsa-docs-395/


It is Bush's fault. Smile
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U.S. online snooping: What Canadians need to know

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/0......_in.html
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Waterboarding is torture, and reading your email is snooping. Torture is not a good thing by anybodies standard, and reading someone's email is just being naughty.

I hope that helped
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Being a Peeping Tom is just being naughty and the new normal.

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On 2013-06-10 19:55, Steve_Mollett wrote:
You mean that scowling jay who pointed at my grandpa and said, "You're drafted"?
Fortunately, they signed the armistice, ending WWI, before he had to report.


No not that one. The one that says Uncle Sam needs you.

Of course some do not feel that it was or is their obligation to serve, which is now the case. No one has too. Many have already served honorably and some made the supreme sacrafice so that now no one "HAS" to serve. Speaking from personal experience I can say it was an honor to serve my country under the draft. I came home. However I know several who did not.
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Waterboarding is torture, and reading your email is snooping. Torture is not a good thing by anybodies standard, and reading someone's email is just being naughty.

I hope that helped


I agree it is torture. Just wondering do the ends justify the means? Supposing hundreds or even thousands of lives are saved. No argument here...just questions.
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