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Daeld
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BBC has run an article on the subject which was interesting. Nothing new here, of course, but nice to see BBC writing a sympathetic piece on the matter.
Article Here
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Yea, I just read the article and came here to post it myself Smile

Where do you think this will all go with the advancement of the internet & globalization??
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I think it's tricky (pun intended) to try to legally protect intelectual property of magic tricks. There are two extremes: complex tricks with special procedures/equipment/arrangements/etc that can be patented or have enough new material like Teller's Shadows to be eligible for copyright. On the other extreme are simple tricks like the Fr***h Drop, which are so simple and old that they cannot be patented.

It is a shame that the art of magic does not have copyright protection. Whereas a musician has copyright as soon as they put pen to paper or bow to string, magicians can only copyright their performance (ie their routine) - and even then, for example a coin routine, would be made up of a number of "tricks" that are in the public domain from the copyright point of view. For completely new tricks/gimmicks/etc, patent protection is available. However, it is cumbersome and has the problem of being searchable!

I think it is important to instill into new magicians the importance of the code of ethics, including respect for those upon whom we build our tricks and routines. I think that an important deterrent in the past has been the relatively expensive price of tricks/gimmicks/DVDs/etc. I think this has (1) ensured loyalty in the buyers (ie It cost me $$$ to buy this, if someone wants it, they can get their own); and (2) ensured that people buying the tricks are more likely to be genuine magicians as opposed to someone with a short-lived interest.

As you say yankyay, with the internet and globalisation it is hard to keep a lid on tricks. It's amazing how many expensive tricks are "revealed" online, even on youtube. It is a shame because it takes the "magic" out of some tricks. On the other hand, it forces us to become more subtle, more innovative and more magical with what's left.
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If it's advertised online and the product itself contains plaintext it's also very likely that the product is shown, explained or exposed online.

The open mass market for tricks is both the main vehicle and victim in the exposure drama.
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