On 2013-04-11 16:16, Dannydoyle wrote:
If they think you are holding out your technique needs work.

On 2013-04-11 16:06, Bulla wrote:
Agreed. Instead you should be looking at why spectators question you. "Done properly, the most skeptical participant doesn’t even suspect, let alone detect, the false premise at the heart of the experience," Michael Ammar.

Knowing what everyone else does is not going to help much because you need to find the correct timing and pacing conducive to your own performance style. You'll get much more constructive criticism if you explain what you do and how you perform instead of leaving us in the dark.

On 2013-04-11 17:59, LeoH wrote:
I carry the small plastic doll hands in my pockets. On the off-chance I have someone say "Show me your hands!" I ditch the gaff in the pocket and come out with the small plastic hand, saying I use a small assistant to do magic, showing the hand coming out and waving at them. I think I learned this at a convention many years ago, but can't remember who to credit. This bypasses the challenge with humor,
and is forgotten.

On 2013-04-11 18:01, jay leslie wrote:
Here's a good one

At a private party in an attorneys home - while standing at the table. The man put his index finger up-into my palm where I had a coin.

He said. when I was younger I used to take lessons from Slydini..

So what could you do? yell NO admonish No... I said "you;ll like this trick even better and got something from my case and came back to the table by stood 2 feet away.

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I'm going to suggest to TheMag1cian that the first 4 effects or routines are self-working or of a puzzle nature and you begin and end by showing empty hands without calling attention to them,
by the way... teenagers without issues act the same way. Thereafter you may be able to skirt the inspections because you have proved they can't catch you.

Scotch and soda ends clean
Out of this world, puts the cards in their hands but you must control their responses
I like performing Ball Manip for difficult people because they try to guess where the balls are and it's too late by that time. Ball manip isn't something youre going to learn over night - it's nor push -button magic,
Card warp leaves the pieces in their hands
A Gosh Ball to Square can fit your requirements if performed with conviction

On 2013-04-11 19:27, TheMag1cian wrote:

Quote:

On 2013-04-11 18:01, jay leslie wrote:
Here's a good one

At a private party in an attorneys home - while standing at the table. The man put his index finger up-into my palm where I had a coin.

He said. when I was younger I used to take lessons from Slydini..

So what could you do? yell NO admonish No... I said "you;ll like this trick even better and got something from my case and came back to the table by stood 2 feet away.

- - - - - -
I'm going to suggest to TheMag1cian that the first 4 effects or routines are self-working or of a puzzle nature and you begin and end by showing empty hands without calling attention to them,
by the way... teenagers without issues act the same way. Thereafter you may be able to skirt the inspections because you have proved they can't catch you.

Scotch and soda ends clean
Out of this world, puts the cards in their hands but you must control their responses
I like performing Ball Manip for difficult people because they try to guess where the balls are and it's too late by that time. Ball manip isn't something youre going to learn over night - it's nor push -button magic,
Card warp leaves the pieces in their hands
A Gosh Ball to Square can fit your requirements if performed with conviction

Thanks. Great advice. I usually do effects that I can shuffle thoroughly (or better yet have them shuffle) and start off with something like search & destroy (so that they're the magician) and have them cut until the Queens seek out their card. Others similar I do are Darly's Untouched and Bannon's Timely Departure. Of course they ask and scrutinize (as many teens do as you pointed out) so I have troubles with gimmicks. UCCU has been going under their radar lately. Actually, today I performed an old one by Annemann (Mentalism Vs Magic) stacked deck with a "thought of card in balloon ending". Its a stacked deck but it played extremely well despite being stacked. They rummaged through the deck and found it to be normal.

Thanks again for the advice.

Jeff

On 2013-04-11 20:44, Dannydoyle wrote:
I think you may be missing the point as well as a wonderful opportunity to grow.

You downplay the technique as the problem but I assure you it is. Not if you can do it in the mirror but in life.

Do you think these kids more more trust issues or less of a filter than drunks at the midnight comedy club show? I promise you they don't. You have found a wonderful excuse but that is not going to help you. Learning easier effects or things like that won't help you at all.

The problem is technique and you have convinced uourself it is not. Without taking that to heart you will not be able to fix the problem. I am soery if it sounds harsh but it is a classic mistake people make. I am not trying to single you out or bust your chops. Magicians get complacant and really miss this point. Tricks can fool people too easlily and the technique gets overlooked. As far as scripting and timing and all those things I am refering to with technique.

Good luck.

On 2013-04-11 21:22, Pete Biro wrote:
We have a "special needs" son... his group of pals watching my parlour magic amazingly kinda figured out many of the secrets. Just don't let it bother you.