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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
So then, in 2011 the Russians warn the FBI about Tamerlan, the same year in 2011 a triple murder happens, three fellows found with their thoats cut, and one of the victims just happens to be the best friend of Tamerlan. The FBI say, well I don't know what you Russians are worried about, Tamerlan seems a real nice fellow to us.
Hmmm
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Never attribute to malice that which can be easily explained by incompetence.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
The incompetence usually happens in the rush to accomplish malice, and the tripping over their own lies and need for deception.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Everyone knows the USA, the CIA, etcetera, have been recruiting Chechens, training them and sending them to join al Qaeda rebel armies who they arm, to fight their wars in Syria and other countries the USA want to take down. Things like that are bound to go wrong from time to time.
Look at the good side of it, always look on the bright side of life, it's cheaper and saves your own troops going in.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2013-04-22 21:26, balducci wrote: Instead of responding directly, I'll let your buddy Bill Maher respond. “You know what, yeah, yeah,” Maher said. “You know what — that’s liberal ******** right there … they’re not as dangerous. I mean there’s only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There’s only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith. An ex-Muslim is a very dangerous thing. Talk to Salman Rushdie after the show about Christian versus Islam. So you know, I’m just saying let’s keep it real.” http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/20/bill-m......ullshit/ |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
That way you can stand on the sidelines and shout - Come on the good guys!
Have you seen that movie Wag the Dog?
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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts |
Well, the Commander in Chief has decided this terrorist should be put on trial in the civilian courts and he's the CiC, so it was his decision (and if Obama decided he should have been declared an enemy combatant he could have had him declared as one and had this terrorist treated accordingly). But this terrorist is the enemy and I would have preferred that he be declared an enemy combatant because he is a threat to National Security and interrogated for intelligence value and then put on trial as a traitor and enemy combatant (a traitor if he actually possessed American citizenship). He received inspiration from Al-queda and is thus the enemy and should be treated accordingly, but the Commander in Chief has spoken and he is in charge. I also think the Russians knew something about this terrorist and we should have followed up on that tip.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2013-04-23 16:31, General_Magician wrote: In a news clip I believe that I heard a spokesman say that because Tsarnaev is a US citizen he cannot be tried as an "enemy combatant". Can anyone verify this? Is there a law or significant precedent for this?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2013-04-23 12:44, rockwall wrote: Which is one reason I find Maher a complete idiot. So I guess those abortion doctor killers should set the standard for how Christians are treated. If there's one overriding theme, it's not that people of any one religion have committed these atrocities, but fundamentalists of many religions.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
I did hear Senator Lindsay Graham state that there was precedent for this and was used at 3 times during World War 2. But I can't confirm it myself. I have mixed feelings about it myself although Senator Graham laid out a fairly convincing argument for it as did Rudy Guliani.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2013-04-23 16:37, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: It has been done before, at least for a U.S. citizen captured overseas and then returned and detained on U.S. soil. http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/0......nse.html I guess if you are (or someone else is) up to it (I do not feel like doing it), you can read this case and summarize it for us: http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-6696.ZO.html
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Kune Veteran user 312 Posts |
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On 2013-04-23 16:40, landmark wrote: According to surveys, 84% of Egyptians believe apostates should be punished with death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Egypt No doubt all the fundamentalists Christians and Buddhists are killing apostates as we speak. It's just that Fox News (or, should I say, Faux news) never reports it because of their hateful agenda!! >:( |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Why is it that some of the same people who argue that there should be no erosion of second amendment rights seem to have no problem chipping away at the rest of the Bill of Rights?
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2013-04-23 17:14, Kune wrote: Almost. The link in the article says 84% of Egyptian Muslims. That would be 84% of 80%-90% of the country, or 67%-75% of Egyptians. It's still a disturbingly big number. Pew claims a margin of error of +/-4% for the survey. Even the best case is pretty disturbing. Quote:
No doubt all the fundamentalists Christians and Buddhists are killing apostates as we speak. It's just that Fox News (or, should I say, Faux news) never reports it because of their hateful agenda!! >:( It is pretty clear that the fundamentalist Muslims in many countries are fighting against human rights more than pretty much any group in the world. The fact remains that many Muslims oppose them, and there are certainly members of other religions and political organizations that are doing the same garbage on a smaller scale. IMO it is imperative that we target the real enemies, embrace our real allies and eliminate the probem--extremism. We know who the most powerful groups are.
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Kune Veteran user 312 Posts |
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On 2013-04-23 17:59, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Good point, I realized a while after posting I should have said Egyptian Muslims. Speaking of which, it's shocking how rare it is to hear anyone mention the plight of the Copts. To be fair someone who fully dedicates their life to furthering human rights could be considered an extremest. They also passionately try to change the world, but for the better by helping others. I personally feel someone like Joseph Damien who dedicated his life to helping leapers, is far more of an extremist than the suicide bombers. It only takes a tenth of a second of pain to blow yourself up, but he spent nine years living and dying for what he believed. Thus I would suggest the problem isn't extremism or how passionate someone is, but far more simply, humans doing shockingly evil things, because they want to, and can be bothered to do them. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
I just listened to a Fox commentator saying that there should be a moratorium placed on all Muslims entering the country and that those already here should be investigated to determine if they should be sent back or put in jail.
Laura Ingraham then stated, regarding the older bomber's wife, that she doesn't care if she knew about the crime or not, but angrily stated that she should be imprisoned just for wearing a hijab. Just an example of how some folks view the sanctity of the First Amendment vis a vis the Second. I'm surprised that none of them have yet suggested that, since we are at "war" with Islam, that all Muslims should be put in detention camps for the duration, as was done to Japanese Americans during WWII. (Even though that action was later determined to be completely unconstitutional.) |
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RobertSmith Veteran user 330 Posts |
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On 2013-04-23 19:11, mastermindreader wrote: That filthy, dirty, conservative Fox commentator! How dare he. Oh, wait! Are you talking about Bob Beckel from Fox News' The Five? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/......nt-Visas The Bob Beckel who is a Democrat and formerly worked on Kennedy's campaign as well as Asst. Deputy Secy of State under the Carter administration? The outspoken supporter of Barack Obama? That "Fox commentator?" |
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts |
That was on the hannity (spelling) show this afternoon right? Who was the person that said it by the way? It didn't seem like it was a republican but a democrat. But I may be wrong
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts |
Was Bob trying to misrepresent something deceptively? Shame shame shame....try harder next time to put the conservatives in a bad light. I caught the show at the tail end and missed the details as to who it was though, Thanks Robert!
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
No. I just watched it on television and wrote what I saw and heard. Was it said? Yes. Was it on Fox? Yes.
Is Laura Ingraham a democrat too? Or those other commentators who apparently agreed with him? I vehemently disagree with Beckel regardless of his party affiliation. Funny that I've never seen him offer commentary on any so-called liberal station. Seems like he is more of a token to help create the illusion of "fair and balanced." But rather than attack me, why not respond to what they actually said. Do you agree or disagree with them? |
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