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I'm new to doing BOR sales, but obviously as many suggest, I see the potential in having this sort of thing available after a show. I'm doing a dinner theater show right now at a nice restaurant venue. You have to be at least 16 years old to attend, but we are finding that there is rarely anyone under 18-20 showing up.

I've considered the basic things as products to sell such as posters, t-shirts, gift certificates, or even a deck of cards with instructions for a trick. Other than that, I'm not really confident in what to pursue selling, probably because I'm not even sure what all the options are. Does anyone have any ideas on where to start with this sort of addition to a show? Thanks!

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James Munton has a small force book magic trick, suitable for adults, available to buy the reprint rights to. I would also suggest you perhaps use the t-shirt for an effect, ie. a simple reveal, you could have the card effect where they think of one card from a spread of cards on the front side, and the reveal on the back where their card is not there, or turned over.

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On 2013-04-17 16:54, Blair Marshall wrote:
James Munton has a small force book magic trick, suitable for adults, available to buy the reprint rights to. I would also suggest you perhaps use the t-shirt for an effect, ie. a simple reveal, you could have the card effect where they think of one card from a spread of cards on the front side, and the reveal on the back where their card is not there, or turned over.

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Thanks for the info Blair! I'm intrigued by the idea of using the shirt within a trick as that makes it something they can do over and over for with friends, starting other conversations relating back to my show (it's all about me after all lol)
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I second James Munton's book, great results with adult audiences!

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Would that be this one?

http://www.magicsells.com/IBOR.html
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Yeah Dave, that's it. It's the "Little Book of Quotes." Well worth it, a great trick for adult audiences.
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Thanks for the nice comments, folks! Let me know if you have any questions - james@jamesmunton.com
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I am a big fan of BOR sales. I am currently selling my magic book, simple tricks, etc. This, though, sounds really interesting. I really do not do too much of a "pitch" other than mentioning that I have items for sale and what they are. One of the appealing aspects of this is the instructional material. With the book I sell, my name is printed on the book in the "by line". Would I be authorized to do the same on this item? Also, I have noticed that only about 10% of the people attending are actual buyers of my BOR--probably due to my lack of a "pitch". What would be your estimate of per centage of the audience buying this item when presented properly?
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My experience with BOR is that it may be hard to sell one item but a bundle of items that get 'cheaper' as you buy more (the basis of the Coney Island pitch closer) is very persuasive. A book for $10 is great but two books, a poster and a fortune telling fish for $25 seems like madness to pass up. End result is more dollars as income while the perception is that the bargain factor was huge.
Don't forget some applied psychology looking at this from the potential buyers point of view. Happy Earnings!
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Charlie,

Yes, with my book there is a page where you add your marketing info. That is an important feature.

It is hard to say a percentage because the types of events vary so much. For example, when I do a sales meeting, almost everyone in the room buys one. At other kinds of events I may only sell a couple. What I usually try to do is get the booker to bulk buy them for everyone as an add-on sale. I don't do many public shows, so I can't give you a number on that. But if you are 'only' selling to 10% at your shows, that is still a lot of extra income over the course of the year!

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It should also be mentioned that because of the market you are selling to (adults) and the type of effect (mentalism) you can ask a far higher price, giving you a greater ROI. It is also a "special" book, and a magic effect that you are selling, so increases the percieved value as well.

It is also easily assembled on your own.

Blair
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