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Al Desmond
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I haven't tried removing it yet.

To answer your other question... I put it where it I needed it. I'm not following any routine from Wong's DVD (or any other magicians routine) so for what I am doing, I only needed the middle and tail coin (sticker sides) to move freely against each other. I see no reason why you couldn't face all the sticker sides with the tape, but I've not had the need as of yet.
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I'm waiting on some more stickers from MR. Wong to redo my super stiple coins. I'll let you know if the mess up the underlying sticker. Not that it matters because I'm replacing the sticker anyway. But I'll fill you in on the pulling off of the tape.

On another note....does anybody know where we can get a sticker that looks like an english penny or any other copper type coin. That would open up some seriously crazy possibilities to have three differient coins to show in one set that all combine into one half dollare when put together. Just a thought!
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On another note...

Since I fixed what I saw was a MAJOR problem with the DFSTC, this set of coins is fast becoming one of my favorite gaffs. At least in regards to the performance scenario of "produce three coins, vanish three coins in your hand." So much a favorite that I just may sell my high end gaffs to the folks in the "Why I will only ever buy Lassen Gaffs!!!!" thread. Smile

So... that said... is anyone making this gaff in a ALL METAL version? That seems to be the next step in making "improvements" to this set. I would prefer to see a set like that made or licensed by Wong, but that's probably besides the point.
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Look into Joe Mogar's Super Triple Coins...he makes excellent coins...not sure what you mean by an all metal version though...
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He means the opposite of the silver side being a black and gold colored chinese coin and not a sticker.
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They seem to offer it in wider sizes if you buy it directly from their website.
You're gonna pay more for it than on Amazon though, but I have a feeling your "OCD" is more powerful than the desire to save a few bucks Smile

http://catalog.cshyde.com/viewitems/tape......tfe-tape

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Excellent find. Thank you and yes as you thought the OCD is strong in this one!
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I personally do not have any trouble separating the 2 back coins. But I do this a lot. It is in my pocket 7 days a week. And my coins are broken in, and without anything extra, they work perfectly for me. I practiced with them until I could do it perfectly before doing it for the public, and putting a little "work" in them made them work perfectly for me.

But thanks for the tip that may help others. Smile
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I suppose breaking them in helps some, but I have also noticed it appears to be a "dry hands" issue as well.
Even after what I would believe to be a reasonable breaking in period, if my hands are dry (which they are naturally) even using both hands it takes an unbelievable amount of exertion to separate the 2 back coins.
I'm talking huffing and puffing and my face turning red, and that's using BOTH hands. But with a little lotion on my hands they separate easily. It's weird, they almost behave like they are two different sets of coins. It is amazing how little they actually need to be separated before they will come right apart, even with dry hands. But it's getting them that first 1/8" or so that can be unbelievably difficult if your fingers cannot grip them well enough.
So it's not a case of simply practicing more with them, because without lotion I can't get 'em apart, no way, no how! It's a struggle even using both hands and it may take me several attempts. This makes it impossible to even attempt to practice with them.

Of course, there could also be some variance in the manufacture of them and some sets could possibly be easier to separate than others, even when brand new.
It seems from what I have read that the Mogar coins separate easily.
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It's rather simple... if you are not having trouble separating the coins, don't do anything. If you are... then I would try the optically clear Teflon tape I recommended above. Debating whether one person can separate the coins and another person can doesn't address the actual problem... the tape does... and no... I don't own stock in any company that produces this tape... and I suspect that a role of this tape would last you your lifetime... I'll have so much tape left by the time I die (I'm now 60) I was thinking of willing my excess to a Café member... any takers.

And you may want to consider how the tape would help preserve the surface of the paper stickers.
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I finally got around to getting some of the tape Al recommended. I bought the 1.5" wide tape direct form CS Hyde because just like jconstantine, I really preferred that the tape cover the entire surface of the coin (I have an Ike dollar coin). Two things I can say...man, did that tape make a difference in the ease of separating the coins, and man is it ever invisible. Whoa, optically clear is right. And Al does make a valid point about the tape helping to preserve the surface of the stickers. I mean that is really one of the intended purposes of a tape like this. It's good stuff. I put some inside a shell that had been dropped and was sticking a little and it helped with that too, and helped with noise. I think that a clear advantage (pardon the pun) it has over the teflon is that it is so clear and invisible.

So thanks again Al for tracking it down. So often you hope that something will solve a problem only to find it may only partially help, but this tape totally solved it with no apparent drawbacks that I can see thus far.

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Acecardician, a question for you.
You said you carry the DFSTC all the time and do it often. I am very curious, do you normally perform the same routine with it, or do you have more than one?
Is it a patter routine or a quick silent routine?
Where did you learn the routine(s) you perform with it?
Do you have a video of it by any chance?
Just curious as I would like to learn more that can be done with this coin.
What I do with it now is fun to play around with for my own amusement, but I would never perform it publicly.
Thanks,
Bill
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Johnny Wong has his dvd that comes with the coin and also another dvd featuring Ponta the smith with some really cool applications for the set. But the best way to learn how to use this set is to park yourself in front of a mirror and play with it. I've come up with some pretty good stuff.
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Paul Richards sells DF-STC in both half dollar and Ike dollar sizes. He includes a DVD with his own routine, and it is a good one IMO. However you must purchase the coin set from him in order to get his DVD.

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AS JIM SAID .ITS A GOOD DVD.
I received my inch and a half optical tape today.
Will apply it to the set tomorrow.
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On May 27, 2013, videoman wrote:
I finally got around to getting some of the tape Al recommended. I bought the 1.5" wide tape direct form CS Hyde because just like jconstantine, I really preferred that the tape cover the entire surface of the coin (I have an Ike dollar coin). Two things I can say...man, did that tape make a difference in the ease of separating the coins, and man is it ever invisible. Whoa, optically clear is right. And Al does make a valid point about the tape helping to preserve the surface of the stickers. I mean that is really one of the intended purposes of a tape like this. It's good stuff. I put some inside a shell that had been dropped and was sticking a little and it helped with that too, and helped with noise. I think that a clear advantage (pardon the pun) it has over the teflon is that it is so clear and invisible.

So thanks again Al for tracking it down. So often you hope that something will solve a problem only to find it may only partially help, but this tape totally solved it with no apparent drawbacks that I can see thus far.

Bill



do you have a link of where you get the 1.5 inch tape?
thanks
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Http://catalog.cshyde.com/item/s-ptfe-te......|3001023
I think you can order it thru Amazon as well.
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Thanks man
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The Teflon Tape Works beautifully, no more issues with my DFSTC or S2C seizing due to sticky stickers for 3 Fly or one to 3 routines !

Already wrote to Al to say thanks for such a great find !

This also works very well for the TUC and greatly improves the handling of that coin.
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On Nov 3, 2015, MikeMgc wrote:
This also works very well for the TUC and greatly improves the handling of that coin.


MikeMgc, How/Where did you apply the tape to the TUC?
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