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Hi Bats...CAN'T WAIT for your review!
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Here you go, trueinventor- the first shot across the bow.

I have not had enough time to really explore everything that you can do with this deck, but here are some of my thoughts.

First of all, yes, I do like what you can do with this deck. It is capable of many things, When Card Shark releases this to all of us it will be even better. My deck cannot be handed out now, although I'm not so sure you would need to do that. I'm sure that some might want to for some effects, and when it is released you will be able to. If you hand out "Get Sharky" (Which I do- it is a necessary part of the effect. I do seem to recall some here saying that they were afraid to hand it out. Don't be!), you can hand out this deck. That just comes from me knowing how Sharky works.

I have used a CHaSeD deck before, but I have never used a Tamariz deck or an Aronson deck before. Until today, that is. Granted, my usage was not very sophisticated, but it worked and went over very well. I almost always have several decks on me, and I was just thinking about using an Aronson deck when I decided "Sure, why not!". I did the necessary set-up, and when the salesman came in to talk business, I went to work.

Now let me just explain that 4 of my best spectators are salesman for 4 different companies that usually come into my workplace once a week each. I usually do a thing or two for each of them when they stop by. They all LOVE for me to entertain them, and I do my best. One of them has actually taken an interest in Magic, and I've taught him a few simple things that he now does when he makes his sales calls! He's actually been to paid performances by magicians, solely because of me. I don't reveal the things that I do for him, but I have shown and given to him things like "You Do As I Do" and the old "Penny and Dime" Trick.

Anyway, I pull out my "Overkill" Deck, and I also place the Aronson Deck on the table, telling him that we'll get back to that later. I riffled through the deck, he calls out "Stop". I asked him if he was happy with that card, or would he like another. He wanted another card, so I let him change his mind. He changed his mind twice. He finally chose the Ten of Hearts. I seemed to have some trouble divining his card. First I thought it was a black card. No. Well then, it's a red picture card. Wrong again. OK, it's a really low value red card, like a two or three of diamonds. Strike three!

I was really upset. This NEVER happens to me!

Wait a minute. Remember the other box of cards that I put down on the table earlier? Well, open it up and remove the cards. Now count down 37 cards from the top. Your card is the next one!

He hesitated. "Go ahead", I said- "Turn it over. I don't even want to touch anything!".

BINGO! There it was. His card. The Ten of Hearts!

Bruce has told me several times that I should be a professional magician. He told that me again today!

Man, oh man- there's no better feeling than that!

I agree- I SHOULD be a professional magician!

As Christian said earlier in this thread, this deck is not for everybody. Some won't like it. Others will. I do like it.

I can cut my grass with a manual push-it lawnmower like the Amish do, or I can use a gas-powered one. And yes, I can pay to have someone else do it for me. I use the gas-powered one.

This is the gas-powered card deck.

More to come this weekend. I'll be using the Aronson Deck with the "Overkill" deck, and I'll be using my wife to help me divine a chosen card from 15 feet away.

It's going to be a good weekend!

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What a very well-done "Sharing from you life" review Bats! Thankyou so much!
Those are my favorite kind! I could almost picture you with your salesmen
friends from how you told it.

Your Amish push mower vs gaspowered lawnmower anology so rang true with me!
I'm old enough to use the old rotary ribbon-blade manual ones!
GREAT EXERCISE! but...

OH did I love the day when Dad came home with our first gas-powered riding mower!

I was already sold on "OVERKILL" but now I'm even sold-er Smile

(Oh, P.S. Bats: my Shelia can divine what credit card I have in any compartment
of my wallet from great distances...don't know if Tim and Chris taught her
or if it's a "girl" thing Smile )
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On 2013-05-09 19:01, BatsMagic wrote:
My deck cannot be handed out now, although I'm not so sure you would need to do that. I'm sure that some might want to for some effects, and when it is released you will be able to.

Sure it can Smile I have been handing it to *laymen to overhand shuffle ever since I started using the deck. I agree you don't *need to.
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You're right, Tim.

What I really should have said is that it can't be "examined", while I believe that the final product can be. Not that I would say "Here, examine this deck", but I hand out my "Get Sharky" deck for my specs to find their chosen card. They go through the cards one by one looking for it. They don't find it. And they have never seen anything that they shouldn't see.

You can't do that with the prototype. But the legitimacy of the deck never came into question at all.

I perform for many people that want to examine things. Audience management can be pretty tough sometimes!

Card Shark looks like they have two excellent winners this spring. "Overkill" is one of them!

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I've been on a Magic Café break for the past week, but I'd like to talk about some of the use that I've gotten out of the "Overkill" Deck.

I attended a barbeque 9 days ago, and one of the few things that took with me was this deck. I used it a good amount of time, usually sw****ing it in after performing "Shufflebored" with another deck. Everything went very well with it.

I used it once with my wife offering a spectator a free choice of any card, and from 10 feet away I was able to reveal the cards identity. I would have liked to do this more than once, but my wife was a little uncomfortable doing this with me and I believe that it showed. I myself could feel that she was not "on", so I only asked her to do it once, and she was relieved. She told me later on that she was afraid to make a mistake, but there was really no reason to feel that way. It is very simple to do a two person "pick-and-reveal" with this deck. Any novice can do it. I've never worked with another person before in this way myself, but I'd like to, and this is an easy way to go with it.

The thing that I've enjoyed doing the most with the "Overkill" Deck is using it with an Aronson Deck for the reveal. I've gotten a big kick out of offering a free choice of card, allowing a spectator to change their mind about the selection once or twice, and then being able to tell the spectator exactly how many cards down their selection is. I did this at least a half dozen times in one day, and it was a pleasure. I even had one guy claim that "I was always going to have them pick the 10 of Hearts" (or whatever), but another person said that they saw me do it with a 6 of Clubs previously. And I did allow them to change their mind before they settled on the 10 of Hearts, didn't I? Yes I did!

All in all I had a great time using the "Overkill" Deck. You need a hammer and a screwdriver in your toolbox. The "Overkill" Deck is a screwdriver that fits a lot of screw heads!

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I should be signed up for Christian's newsletter, but I haven't received one in ages.
So now for the important stuff: has the pre-release started yet??
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No notice has been given yet, Doctor D!

It should be soon, though.

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Has the release date been announced? This sounds interesting.
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On 2013-06-05 17:11, G. Batson wrote:
Has the release date been announced? This sounds interesting.


I'm not really into mentalism, but this sounds really impressive.

Will be standing by for this one.

Kind regards.

Neil.
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I tried to contact card shark on their website to get release info but did not hear back from anyone. Does anyone here know about a release date? Video?
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What happened?
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This trick will be released right after the Magic Live 11-14 august. I just talked With card shark magic
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Hi guys, I am really looking forward to Magic Live where we finally will release the Overkill Deck! The instructions got revised several times, I got great routines from Mark Elsdon and a killer Overkill ACAAN from Jan Forster, a specialist in card mentalism.

Maybe you can give me an idea for the following: the demo video!

This tool is so versatile, that you can do so many different things with it. I love live demos, but it is not a trick deck you would just film and that is it. Any suggestions what we should film with it while in Vegas???

I did a great spontaneous act with Charlie Frye back in England with it, where he went into the audience and I was able to know the cards the spectators selected. The whole deck is awesome for partner work. Unfortunately it was so spontaneous, that I did not film it. ***...
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I'd prefer parts of performances of several routines included in the handling, rather than one full-length one. Routines that reflect how versatile and easy to work this deck is.
If possible, use someone who has just picked it up from your booth, introduce him to the workings, and have him vouch - on camera - that this is his first outing with the Overkill Deck.
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Was a video made at Magic Live? Did anyone see it demonstrated?
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Saw this demonstrated at Magic Live, and it indeed has a ton of tricks up its sleeve! It's basically like Get Sharky on steroids! You can do single-person reveals, reveal multiple selections, have a partner make the reveal, do the old "wizard" trick over the phone, etc. Some very cool stuff built in here!

Kevin
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I purchased this at Magic Live, after seeing it demoed and explained. For those who know the Phoenix deck line, this is not a major departure. But it does provide so many options for use, and is dead simple to use. The cards handle very nicely, and the desired information to perform the effects is extremely clear, even for 52 year old eyes. If you like the type of effects that are described, then I think you will be happy with this deck.

John
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Yes, that is the strange part about this deck: if you expect "just a trick" like Get Sharky, you might be disappointed. Get Sharky is VERY clear in what can be achieved. A card is peeked and disappears immediately from the deck, to be found at an impossible location.

The Overkill Deck however is a TOOL that has several built in features. Really, just imagine a Swiss Army Knife built into a deck of cards. You have to be able to put on a Poker face during performance. It will be tough NOT to smile when using the features built-in. Magic Balay, one of the best magic demonstrators I know, from Fantasma in New York City, is one of the biggest fan of the Get Sharky. When he saw the Overkill Deck he immediately fell in love with it. The next day he already used all the different codes coming with it. It is really that easy.
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So is this only available from Germany? Assuming it has now been officially released?
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