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I'm a busking magician and I do street performances. I've learned on my own and just recently found a magic community online. I am looking to create a much better show. At the moment I do a lot of mentalism (osterlin style) but I want to start using more gimmicks and making my show even better. I'm just wondering what kinds of gimmicks are best for this kind of environment.
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Promystic if your looking for gimmicks
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I'm going to make a prediction...that you're going to get a lot of comments that you should focus on your show: your character, your routine, and the entertainment of the audience more than looking for a specific gimmick.

What is your character? Do you do large circle shows? Or trickle shows as folks walk by? Where do you busk? Tourist area? Festivals?

Let us know a bit more about you ...
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Gimmicks are for those that can't, magic is for those who can. Sorry (ok, that's bull crap I', not sorry) to tell you this. But, I use just some rope, do sidewalk shows and make a living. You don't need gimmicks, you have to relate to your audience, talk to them, get them to laugh and then GTFM.
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My street show is,
-Multiplying bananas,
-Sponge ball routine,
-Egg bag,
-Single rope routine (Fibre optics),

I have a deck of cards and a metal ring to use with the rope if extra is needed. Some times if it quite I do a trickle busk with just rope.

But my main show is what I do most of the time. The tricks them self I have known for a long time. However it took me a while to get them right for the street. I have added lots of one liners and gags with the crowd. Once this was all in place I worked on my hat lines. Over the time my hats got fatter.

I strange over time I have taken bit out of my egg bag and I have took tow phases out of my rope routine. But my show is about 5-10 minute longer and more people are watching the whole thing and hats are good.

Hope this helps. I have found lots great advice here myself.
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Swammi gimmick
short direct book test (ted lesly)
tost out deck (max maven - gazzo)

things that involve people

biggest gimmick YOU!
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On 2013-05-03 02:48, ROBERT BLAKE wrote:

biggest gimmick YOU!


Best statement I've seen in some time!
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On 2013-05-01 20:40, bobobaggins wrote:
I'm just wondering what kinds of gimmicks are best for this kind of environment.

There is no best gimmick for each magician. It depends on each individual. For example some people might like sport cars the most. Others might like luxury cars more. Some travelers will like cold climates yearly. Some travelers will like warmer climates yearly. Some travelers will decide to let it vary yearly. Some buskers favorite gimmick is a vest. Some buskers will prefer not to wear a vest. There is no such thing of a good trick either. It all depends on how it is presented.
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On 2013-05-02 16:15, Paddy wrote:
You don't need gimmicks, you have to relate to your audience, talk to them, get them to laugh and then GTFM.


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You also don't need much gimmicks if you have sleight of hand skills. but when you combine sleight of hand, witty personality and a little gimmick....yeah baby!
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On 2013-05-02 16:15, Paddy wrote:
Gimmicks are for those that can't, magic is for those who can. Sorry (ok, that's bull crap I', not sorry) to tell you this. But, I use just some rope, do sidewalk shows and make a living. You don't need gimmicks, you have to relate to your audience, talk to them, get them to laugh and then GTFM.


Paddy says it very very well! (He should! He speaks from EXPERIENCE!!!)

I would change only ONE WORD! (and, this is not just semantics!) When we are performing (no matter what the venue) it is important to COMMUNICATE with the audience.

Communication 'is' a CONVERSATION! (now look at Paddy's comment again) It is important to talk WITH (not TO) the audience! I really think that that's what Paddy meant to say! Sometimes in speaking, it's very easy to use the "wrong" preposition! --and to a careful reader, THAT may change the meaning of the statement.

I'll be back in a "minute" I just need to pour another cup of coffee!
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On 2013-05-03 02:48, ROBERT BLAKE wrote:

things that involve people

biggest gimmick YOU!


Again! Bob speaks from EXPERIENCE!

In the "old days" magicians could do a "watch me do this" style of act. That is passé! The "key word" is INVOLVEMENT! (physically, mentally, even emotionally). If the people in the tip, are merely passive spectators, you'll find it difficult to "make them stay"! (and if they don't stay, they aint gonna pay!)

Referring to the OP, Bob uses the OP's word (gimmick). Note that this is a rather liberal use of the term, "gimmick". But, Bob "hits the nail squarely on its head", He says: "the biggest gimmick YOU"

Yes!!!!! THE PERFORMER IS ALWAYS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PROP(S)!!!!!
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On 2013-05-02 17:10, Yellowcustard wrote:
My street show is,
-Multiplying bananas,
-Sponge ball routine,
-Egg bag,
-Single rope routine (Fibre optics),

I have a deck of cards and a metal ring to use with the rope if extra is needed. Some times if it quite I do a trickle busk with just rope.

But my main show is what I do most of the time. The tricks them self I have known for a long time. However it took me a while to get them right for the street. I have added lots of one liners and gags with the crowd. Once this was all in place I worked on my hat lines. Over the time my hats got fatter.

I strange over time I have taken bit out of my egg bag and I have took tow phases out of my rope routine. But my show is about 5-10 minute longer and more people are watching the whole thing and hats are good.

Hope this helps. I have found lots great advice here myself.


"Yaller" (that's Texas talk!!!)Custard spelled it out in more detail, and, it's apparent that he speaks from EXPERIENCE, also!

Normally, I don't get too "excited" when posters mention specific tricks/routines. Mainly, because, IMHO, tricks/routines, if they are to be successfully performed (so that they ENTERTAIN the tip) must "fit" the performer and his personality, and his ability. In this case, I think "Cus" is using his list more as an example of what has been successful for him, and not a specific recommendation to the OP!

Here, again IMHO, "Cus" makes an extremely important point. He has (perhaps without realizing it) followed the philosophy of JAY MARSHALL'S (and many other old "pro's.") regarding producing a show. He has EDITED his material. Plus, he has added lines and gags WITH the crowd (he injects HIS personality!. He is not just "reciting" patter"!

One more note: It appears to me that he can carry all his props IN HIS POCKETS!
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On 2013-05-02 11:52, imgic wrote:
I'm going to make a prediction...that you're going to get a lot of comments that you should focus on your show: your character, your routine, and the entertainment of the audience more than looking for a specific gimmick.

What is your character? Do you do large circle shows? Or trickle shows as folks walk by? Where do you busk? Tourist area? Festivals?

Let us know a bit more about you ...


IMGIC's "prediction" has, IMHO, begun to come true. The OP is getting a million dollars worth of ideas and advice, from people who are well qualified to share their experience and wisdom.

And, the questions that he has posed, if the OP will answer them, I'm sure will elicit more help.
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Now BOBOBAGGINS!

--I hope that you have been following this thread! GO BACK "UPSTAIRS" AND READ NICK W's post, again!!!

Nick is a very very successful busker. (And,--heehee-- a "reasonably good performer" --LOL!-- too!) He travels the WORLD!

READ HIS POST AT LEAST FIFTY TIMES!
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Maybe, I should emphasize that I was just kidding about Nick W.'s performing ability!!!

Anyone who has done, and is doing, what he does, must be doing it right!

I've never met him. I've only seen a few examples of his performing on you tube, etc. In my "book", he's a real pro!

I also like his philosophy--otherwise, I would not have urged BOBOBAGGINS to go back and read Nick's post 50 times!
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How do you get gimmicks? make em'. how do you get sleight of hand skills? practice and flight time. how do you get a witty personality? hang around people who make you laugh and take notes, go to a improv class, watch and read and do anything that makes you laugh and "crack". basically everything your teachers asked you not to do in class, do it on the streets and ask for money afterwards.
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"basically everything your teachers asked you not to do in class, do it on the streets and ask for money afterwards."

PERFECT!!!
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On 2013-05-11 06:30, Dick Oslund wrote:

Yes!!!!! THE PERFORMER IS ALWAYS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PROP(S)!!!!!


And what your audience experiences is far more important, than the performer.

It is what you deliver; entertainment, mystery, amazement, engagement/involvement.

That is what fills your hat.

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The reason so many performers are so awful is... Instead of working on a powerful performing presence, they look for better tricks.

Unfortunately magicians LOVE tricks.... obviously, that's why they are magicians.
They are either introverts or un-self-aware. You can overcome these but it's not easy.
Their focus is on themselves and tricks and methods, instead of others.

When they perform they think everyone is just like them..... "trick lovers". Newsflash!!!... Audiences aren't like them.

Audiences just want to be entertained.

Take the time to learn to entertain and you'll do well.
Take the time to learn to entertain with very little and you'll go far.

You, indeed, are the only gimmick.
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