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George Hunter
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Yes, Jesse:

This did start as a thread about Waters' new DVD's. I can summarize some reflections over the last three days, as follows. Most mentalists will find value in the DVD's; those who are rooted in his book will find more value in the DVD's, as will those who perform with tarot cards

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Looking forward to picking these up; I've always liked Waters's work.

>"he sometimes indulges in commonplace, even prosaic, advice: such as (snip) "Be nice to the spectators."

Actually, I'm surprised at how many performers DO need to be told that!

Be well, all.

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Well stated George...
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Google: stevens magic t a waters gemini archives to see T.A. Waters Column Archives for Stevens' magic. You can pick each column.
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Today I finished watching the DVD package "Miracles of Mind." A class, as be expected of a master.

The effects are simple (deliberately simple, I think), but to illustrate great ideas.

I recommend.
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On 2013-05-05 18:17, cpbartak wrote:
So, let me get this all are reluctant to do effects with tarot cards...because no one else is? isn't that a good thing that your competition isn't using the same material as you? or is the only way we can tell if an effect is "cool" is if other people are doing it too? these are some strange comments to me. if you like something, do it. don't be sheep.

I agree fully with what you're saying CP.
I make use of Tarot cards in many situations but, not because others don't use them, just when it suits me to do it.

Admittedly, I do have a tendacy, when using props, to mostly use ones that that were issued in limited numbers to give me edge over other 'run of the mill' performances. It certainly works for me in that aspect.

Like many others I suppose that, before buying a trick, I waited to see what others thought about it first. But now I make a purchase, then find a way of fitting it into my style if it does not initially seem to fit. Obviously, this is not always possible as there is a lot of crap out there.
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A very interesting thread, thank you to all contributors. I have MM+M, and am wondering whether the DVDs cover anything which is NOT in there? Thanks.
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It has been almost two months since I started this thread, and I did not make a direct effect-by-effect comparison between the book and the DVD's, but I can give you two impressions.

1. At least most of the DVD effects are printed in the book.

2. But in the DVD's, at least several times, he changed or updated the effect from the printed version--I think for the better.

It was interesting to see evidence that the effects had evolved in his own mind and experience.

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