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From the CBC

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Free software that allows anyone to make a working gun using a 3D printer has been posted online by a Texas-based group that says it aims to challenge gun control.

Defense Distributed posted a video of a successful test firing of its Liberator pistol on its blog Sunday. The pistol is made of plastic using a 3D printer, which deposits the material layer-by-layer by squirting it out as it scans across, line by line, the way a regular printer does.

The video invites people to download the CAD (computer-aided design) file for the gun from a website called DEFCAD.

The file is available for free. However, anyone who tries to download the file is invited to donate money to the group's "Wiki Weapon" project.
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As time goes by people gain knowledge and knowledge is dangerous as we know. Which is why the Egyptians kept secrets. One day we will all see the light and we will all be gone in a flash. Such is life.
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Said pistol also gets only a few shots before it melts and becomes useless.

Call me when they can print bullets and gunpowder.
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On 2013-05-06 15:00, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
From the CBC

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Free software that allows anyone to make a working gun using a 3D printer has been posted online by a Texas-based group that says it aims to challenge gun control.

Defense Distributed posted a video of a successful test firing of its Liberator pistol on its blog Sunday. The pistol is made of plastic using a 3D printer, which deposits the material layer-by-layer by squirting it out as it scans across, line by line, the way a regular printer does.

The video invites people to download the CAD (computer-aided design) file for the gun from a website called DEFCAD.

The file is available for free. However, anyone who tries to download the file is invited to donate money to the group's "Wiki Weapon" project.



Well, there goes the neighbourhood.
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On 2013-05-06 15:24, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Said pistol also gets only a few shots before it melts and becomes useless.

Call me when they can print bullets and gunpowder.


Only a matter of time I'm guessing. (The gun and the bullets. Not so sure about the gunpowder.)

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/14355......acturing

(And technically, I think I'm staying true to my goal. Not arguing any point here, just posting an interesting link about current technology.)
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On 2013-05-06 15:24, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Said pistol also gets only a few shots before it melts and becomes useless.

Call me when they can print bullets and gunpowder.


Seriously? Wait till the horse is out to close the barn door?

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With the spirit of 'make love not war', I say better printable plastic dildos. Smile
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If you're that hard up for a firearm, you're probably better off just making a zip gun.

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Zip-Gun
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Ahhh the good ol days. Zip guns.
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On 2013-05-06 19:46, rockwall wrote:
Just for you Pakar.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07......373.html

enjoy


My gfs tq. Smile
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Some thoughts from Paul Hsieh at Forbes:

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However, current law already allows home hobbyists to build their own firearms provided they are for personal use only (and not for sale). Such guns are already “untraceable.” 3D-printing doesn’t change that basic fact — it merely allows a wider range of hobbyists without specialized machine shop skills to do what’s already legal.

The unease expressed over 3D-printed guns mirrors similar unease following the adoption of widespread cryptography for secure communications. Some opponents were concerned that ordinary Americans could use this technology to engage in criminal activities undetected by the government. In the 1990s, the Clinton administration pushed for the adoption of hardware backdoors to allow government to read otherwise secure e-mail as it saw fit. Even now, the FBI continues to seek wider powers to monitor citizens’ electronic communications on the grounds it’s necessary to stop terrorism.

Yes, the government has a legitimate role in stopping the misuse of cryptography for evil purposes, such as terrorist plots or the dissemination of digital contraband such as child pornography or pirated software. But that should not be a pretext for giving the government excessive power over innocuous private communications.

Similarly, government has a legitimate role in stopping gun crime. But this should not be a pretext for restricting 3D-printing technology.
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The security industry should pay these guys a lot of money. They've just ensured we'll have full-body scanners and gunpowder sniffers at every government building and airport forever.
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The blueprints have been downloaded more than 100,000 times.

Immigrant Charles Cooke notes:

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Just now, I noted that 100,000 people have already downloaded the digital blueprints to Defense Distributed’s 3D-printable gun. This gem was among the comments on my post:

"The answer is we have to ban 3D. No one really needs a third dimension. If it will save just one life, it will be well worth it. Living in a two-dimensional world is just a sensible limitation on our depth perception."

This is pretty funny but, as with most things that are pretty funny, it strikes at a real point – that being that the Second Amendment implications of limiting the printing of guns are the least of America’s worries. If previous panicked attempts to prohibit items of which the state disapproves are anything to go by, the whole Bill of Rights will eventually find its way into the crosshairs of the censors, liberty interests being subjugated as usual by ostensible “necessity.” There is simply no way of making a serious effort to prevent — not prosecute after the fact, but prevent — people from making, carrying, and transporting 3D-printed guns without going after Americans’ First Amendment right to distribute whatever blueprints they wish and without undermining in some way their Fourth Amendment right to privacy. Moreover, as we have seen with the disatrous War on Drugs, in the absence of a Prohibition-style constitutional amendment, the Constitution would likely get quite the run around in the process. The Gonzales v. Raich decision made clear that when it comes to prosecuting people of whom the federal government doesn’t approve, the Tenth and Fifth Amendments are deemed to be irrelevant in the face of the all powerful Commerce Clause. Do we really trust Chuck Schumer to consider the implications of his new hobby horse?

True, “. . .sensible limitation on our depth perception” is a hilarious line. But it would be even funnier if one couldn’t imagine somebody in Congress actually going there whilst in hot pursuit of their own tail.
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Update: the blueprints have been taken down at the request of the Federal government.
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On 2013-05-09 20:21, Woland wrote:
Update: the blueprints have been taken down at the request of the Federal government.


Not just taken down at the request of the Federal Gov't., The US Gov't now "claims control" of the information.

"This file has been removed from public access at the request of the US Department of Defense Trade Controls. Until further notice, the United States government claims control of the information".

http://defcad.org/liberator/
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