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I know, that makes me a Mental Magician not a Mentalist.

So it does, I'm ok with that.

I'm doing this because I do still incorporate some Mental Magic routines in my shows and even some supernatural debunking which is just Magic tricks so this is the best title for me.

The show will be known as Magic of the Mind.

Easier to market as well here in my country. Smile

Whaddaya think?
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Which country ?
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That seems to be the easier way many seem to be going rather than committing to being a true mentalist conveying specific abilities. This just blurres the line to public perception as far as I'm concerned. Best of luck.
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Your audience couldn't care less what you call yourself. If it works for marketing and helps you book more shows, more power to ya. Smile
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Actually, I do think that what you call yourself matters. Or at least you need to get across to potetial audiences or bookers what it is you do.

For example, if I see advertising for a show by a "psychic," I would expect a Sylvia Browne, John Edward or other "talk to the dead" type of performer. I wouldn't bother to see this show; I would not find it entertaining (whether or not the performer is doing something very different from the psychics I named -- I wouldn't know that from the designation of "psychic").

I think Marc Salem had a show called "Mind Games." I would find that appealing -- it sounds like fun. I think Bob Cassidy calls himself a "mind reader" -- I would expect him to act as a "pickpocket of thoughts." That also sounds like fun to me.

If I saw an advertisement for a "mentalist," I am not sure what I would think. With the television show of the same name, I would probably think "tricks." I would be a little lukewarm about that show (and probably be constantly looking for the "trick").

Made-up names make what you do obscure. As a potential audience member, I would need more information before deciding to see your show. Without that additional information, I would give it a miss.
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On 2013-05-09 07:58, Gourmet wrote:
Which country ?


Malaysia. Smile
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On 2013-05-09 08:00, Mindpro wrote:
That seems to be the easier way many seem to be going rather than committing to being a true mentalist conveying specific abilities. This just blurres the line to public perception as far as I'm concerned. Best of luck.


Thanks. Smile
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Your audience couldn't care less what you call yourself. If it works for marketing and helps you book more shows, more power to ya. Smile


Thanks. Smile
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I'm toying with the words: Mystic, Mysterious, Mystery etc. It gets me away from the "magician" word but leaves it all up in the as to what I do and/or what lies behind it. Turn up, watch, enjoy.

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Your audience couldn't care less what you call yourself. If it works for marketing and helps you book more shows, more power to ya. Smile


Yes the bottom line in showBUSINESS is do you pull in the crowds and entertain them? If yes, then carry on! If no, then change it till you do.
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Your audience couldn't care less what you call yourself. If it works for marketing and helps you book more shows, more power to ya. Smile


Yes the bottom line in showBUSINESS is do you pull in the crowds and entertain them? If yes, then carry on! If no, then change it till you do.


Agreed. Smile
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All the best Pakar! I use to live in Malaysia about 9 years ago! I use to intro myself as a Mind Illusionist (hence my username) but I realized I want to stay away from the magicky term as mentioned above. So mystery entertainer and or mentalist is my intro now.
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All the best Pakar! I use to live in Malaysia about 9 years ago! I use to intro myself as a Mind Illusionist (hence my username) but I realized I want to stay away from the magicky term as mentioned above. So mystery entertainer and or mentalist is my intro now.


Hey, thanks! Smile

That's just it, I still have elements of Magic I love to perform so this name makes sense for me.

And in Malaysia, they look at you funny when you say you're a "mentalist". Smile
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A repost for those who missed it last year.

The Mentalician

I look out across the rows and aisles of the old theater with a certain apprehension. Dark red shapes and cringing shadows mask a usta have a pattern carpet. The ushers below are arguing over whether this performer is a magician or a mentalist. The only thing each is sure of is that the other guy is wrong. The program reads, “Oracle of Ever!” If he doesn’t know what he is it’s going to be a long, long night!

The problem is that from where I sit the stage is blocked by a pillar and I have to watch the audience to get any sense of what is happening. Good thing, actually, since observing people is usually more interesting that the feature act. Don’t have to be a mentalist to see astonishment on an old lady’s face or feel a sense of awe ripple through a crowd. Don’t have to be a magician to conjure up laughter and tears and white knuckles on the back of the seat ahead. A fella like Orson Wells could do all of that reading a phone book. Last performer here that made everyone laugh at once was Victor Borge. I just hope this Oracle can keep everyone awake. The opposite of entertainment is boredom. Sigh!

Yup! Looking back over the years the greatest difference between conjurors and mentalists and other kinds of acts is boredom; and mentalism demonstrations seem more prone to stifled yawns than conjury. Most people in those red seats start out bored, you know – that’s why they’re searching to be entertained. If they could entertain themselves they wouldn’t be sitting in that creaky chair. Most are yearning to see something that illustrates that there is more to life than what they have, so they love to see the impossible made real and dream of being more able mentally. Least wise, people’s overheard comments reveal that expectations for magic and mentalism is higher than for other acts. What they want is hope – what they get is, well …

So, here is the revelation. The difference between a good conjuror and a good mentalist is small compared with the separation of magicians from other types of public performance. The bored public may crave entertainment in many forms, but when they go to see a conjuror, illusionist or mentalist they do so to BE entertained. The performer must both educate the audience as to what they will do and then follow through by doing exactly what they say. That’s where boring come in. When a conjuror does a trick more than once he loses the element of surprise, yet people can still be entertained by the color or artistry or puzzle presented. Folks will come back several times to see the same magic show and still be entertained – find hope even in the mistakes. When a mentalist does the same demonstration more than once he looses rapt attention and people’s minds wander back to the problems they’re trying to escape. So, rather than hope they get immersed in what they shoulda done but didn’t. Predicting the future is easy if you always do what you always did. A conjuror has to work harder to get started, while a mentalist has to work harder to stay in the same place. If he is too perfect then applause changes to furtive laughter and then to worried frowns and a silent fear. Yup, a mentalist walks a mental tightrope seeking balance between “wish I could do that” and “hope nobody can.” Of course, I’m only sharing what I see in the audience and not what the mirror tells ya or friends and peers. I’m telling you this because of what happened to me back when I tried to be a mentalist. But the curtain is about to go up and I want to see what kind of impact this Oracle has on the audience.

“Good evening one and all. I am an Oracle. Some of you may think that means I can foretell future events. Others may feel this means giving new depth to events from previous times. A few might think it another term for a magician who will cause impossible things to transpire. One or two might even believe that there is no magic in the world, that no one has special abilities and that everything I do is a trick. Well … each and every one of you is correct in your beliefs and expectations. In the next hour I will demonstrate the power of innate abilities each of you holds but are unaware. I will guide some of you in reading the thoughts and emotions of another person. I will allow impossible events to occur for your entertainment. And I will teach you how to have a greater say over what the future will bring.

There is a catch, of course! I will never tell you which of these causes is at work in any effect or demonstration. You must decide what is a natural ability, what is an illusion, what is psychology and what is something more – magic perhaps, or psychic phenomena. I can predict this. Tonight each of you will have an ‘awe-ha’ moment that will stay with you forever. This night is not the beginning nor the end – it is just a fine moment – your moment. It is now!”


I guess this won’t be boring after all! Some folks will believe in magic no matter how badly you mess up, and some will never believe in paranormal stuff no matter how good you are. Most believe something else is to blame for their boring life than the decisions they make. They want to forget – at least for an hour or two. We call that entertainment. This guy dares to tell them to remember. I am certain I will.
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Thanks funsway....

Mentalician though?

I'll stick with Mind Magician. Smile
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Just don't call yourself late for dinner or Johnson


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"I do mysterious stuff! Wanna see some?"

That's always better than the usual and predictable:

"I'm a Mentalist!"
"What's a Mentalist?"
[I explain]
"Oh! What like Derren Brown then! Can you do that one he did where..........."
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So, as you live in U.K maybe you should call yourself and yet another Derren Brown Smile
It remember me the prisoner, hello Derren number 6 how are you today do you know where is derren number 24?"lol
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So, as you live in U.K maybe you should call yourself and yet another Derren Brown Smile
It remember me the prisoner, hello Derren number 6 how are you today do you know where is derren number 24?"lol


Nah! But I am thinking of changing my name to Rob Cassidy! Smile
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