On 2013-05-20 20:45, mastermindreader wrote:
Of course they would cordon off the area, if only for safety reasons and to determine any possible danger. And news media from across the country would be there reporting on it. Do you know how many thousands of people would have to be involved in a coverup to prevent the event from becoming public knowledge?

The old saying is still fundamentally true- The only way that three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead.

On 2013-05-20 20:10, R.S. wrote:

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On 2013-05-20 18:45, mastermindreader wrote:
Here's some further relevant information:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mars_Anomaly_Research

Thanks Bob! From your link:

**Claims such as these denigrate the hard work of those who are trying to learn about the real Mars. There are thousands of dedicated scientists for whom the discovery of Martian life would be the pinnacle of their careers, the greatest advance in human knowledge of our time. To suggest that these people, including the late Carl Sagan, would intentionally obfuscate evidence of this, is deeply insulting.**


This is so true. The thing that strikes me about the assorted UFO/alien debates is that the REAL facts of the universe, the REAL knowledge that we have gained, is deeply fascinating and much more interesting than any wild speculation or anecdotal stories. The UFO crowd generally dismisses science/astronomy as a boring and ultimately fruitless endeavor at best, and at worst, as conspiratorial. UFO stories satisfy their thirst for the sensational and the incredible, as well as connecting them to the universe at large. I understand that feeling very well. But a serious pursuit of astronomy will provide that same feeling 10 times over! Astronomy provides so many amazing facts about the universe we inhabit that you can't help but be in awe! Furthermore, how we came to know these things is equally inspiring. Black holes, neutron stars, supernovae, etc. are all REAL, and therefore provide wonderment that no half-baked UFO story ever could. Did you know that every atom in your body at this moment came from a star that died? And that the atoms in your left hand may have come from a different star than the atoms in your right hand? We know this to be true. Think of that when you look at the night sky. These precious gems of knowledge that we have ingeniously teased from the universe are the sorts of things that amaze me. The sensational (though unfounded) stories of UFOs can never measure up to the mind blowing KNOWN facts of the universe.


Ron
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On 2013-05-21 05:07, Dannydoyle wrote:
People find it hard to believe but the truth is sometimes boring. Every small town has something they are "hiding" . Turns out that it is invariably a boring reason. Facts are facts and speculation without training is absurd.

We have scientific methods for determining things. What people call common sense is not the method. Look at the stock in the water analogy. Common sense tells you it is bent. You can see with your own eyes it is bent! Science tells us different.

Not any science is perfect. But it is as close as we can get. Doug you seem like a good guy. Most people who fall for this nonsense are. Stop watching the History Channel.

I have said it for years. People who are serious are hindered by the false claims.

On 2013-05-20 15:54, Dannydoyle wrote:
I think the most certain proof of intelligent life on other planets is the fact they have not tried to contact us.

On 2013-05-21 10:25, acesover wrote:
So it seems, that if there is life out there, the distances are just so vast to ever find out with the current mode of space travel. We would definitely need light speed space craft at the very least to ever reach these planets. So until then we can just speculate and discuss the possibilities of life out there because there is no way we can know for sure.

So unless life out there has advanced so far as to have the capabilities to reach us, we are not going to meet them any time soon. Discounting the possibility that they came all this way and had a mishap and we found their remains or they want to contact us it will remain just a fantasy of our fertile minds as to whether life exists out there.

TO BAD SO SAD.

On 2013-05-21 12:05, George Ledo wrote:
I've always wondered (OK, since I was a kid, anyway), why we always seem to think that alien civilizations always have to be more advanced than us. Granted there probably wouldn't be any point in a story where we go and find a planet full of two-pound, inedible land-based green lobsters that feed on blue cacti and secrete Chanel #1, but I would think that qualifies as life too.

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