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satellite23
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This song proves you wrong. Just take a listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHgxb5kQYGg

This is real rap, how it's supposed to be performed.

The rapper's name is Mike Shinoda aka Fort Minor. He originally started rapping with Linkin Park (a dubstep/rock band) but made his own solo album in 2005. He isn't like most rappers. Instead of punchlines, he focuses on stories.
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Good subject content but I still don't like Rap. Smile
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Mother always taught me if you can't say anything good don't say anything so ...
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Rap is all bad- regardless of the lyrics...
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Songs don't prove anything.
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On 2013-05-18 09:48, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote:
Rap is all bad- regardless of the lyrics...


Well, I guess we can agree to disagree Smile

I like rap just as much as I like rock, country, or pop.

And yes, I think that a lot of rap (and modern music in general) is nasty, filthy, inappropriate, etc. But at it's core, rap is just like any other form of music: rhyming and rhythm. Sure, there's not any melody, but that's not the point.

Still, I could take any rap lyrics, add instruments and melodies behind it, and nobody would ever know the difference.
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I agree, satellite23.

While rap and hip hop are not my favorite genres, there has, nonetheless, been quite a bit of good creative stuff that I've enjoyed very much.

Back in the mid-fifties there were plenty who were saying the same negative things about early rock and roll.
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On 2013-05-18 09:48, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote:
Rap is all bad- regardless of the lyrics...


Well, I guess we can agree to disagree Smile

I like rap just as much as I like rock, country, or pop.

And yes, I think that a lot of rap (and modern music in general) is nasty, filthy, inappropriate, etc. But at it's core, rap is just like any other form of music: rhyming and rhythm. Sure, there's not any melody, but that's not the point.

Still, I could take any rap lyrics, add instruments and melodies behind it, and nobody would ever know the difference.


Sorry, did not mean to state my personal preference so strongly. Setting off-putting lyrics aside, I just do not put rap in the category of music- perhaps because I find it annoying. To me, songs need to be sung. Also, I find the driving programmed beat, lacking in any change of tempo, anything but soothing. Looking back, I can remember feeling the same about "Hooked on classics", disco and a good bit of the Beatles stuff. But it is just me-nothing to disagree about...

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While I really dislike 'most' rap, I'll admit that the video gave me a new appreciation for what can be done with it. It was pretty cool that they could take a story like that and just be able to 'rap' it. Not that it made me like rap anymore! LOL

Usually the only time that I don't really mind rap is if it is added into an existing song for short periods of time.
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I don't like rap because it's mostly tone poetry and I don't care for tone poetry.
I acknowledge that rap, even negative rap, is difficult to do and requires quite a bit of talent.
That doesn't mean I have to like it.

I like Will Smith's stuff although I realize most of it is gimmicky stuff meant to promote his latest movie.
I did like his "Summertime."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA

But even the positive stuff annoys me as they seem to be mostly forced rhymes.

Right now, I'm listening to the Beatles, so I'm not clicking on your link. I'm sure it's very positive and that's to be admired when you see 90% of the rap out there is about street life and/or doing women.

But I'm listening to the Beatles;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoVHC0s_sZs
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?"
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I love Rap.

Mike Shinoda is good. Smile

But...

Tupac is King.

RIP.
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On 2013-05-19 20:04, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
I love Rap.

Mike Shinoda is good. Smile

But...

Tupac is King.

RIP.


Haha. Agreed. I love Tupac. And of course, I just got his poetry book, "Rose That Grew From Concrete." It's insanely good!
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I like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anPBctDzcv0
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I'm a hip-hop and rap head from back in the day. I think it was quite ingenious for inner- city youth to take two turn tables and create a genre of music that turned into a world-wide phenomenon that generated billions of dollars.
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For me, Rap is not music. It's just that...Rap.
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If Tupac is King, Jay-Z must be the Prince.

I forgot how much Jay-Z is involved with Mike Shinoda, but I just got a CD last night-----"Linkin Park: Collision Course ft. Jay-Z"

It's sick, a bunch of remixes of LPs old songs, with some guest appearances by Jay himself. And, Jay produced Fort Minor's record, "Rising Tied."
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On 2013-05-19 18:11, ed rhodes wrote:
But I'm listening to the Beatles;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoVHC0s_sZs


Ed, I clicked your link just out of curiosity to see what song you were listening to. I ended up listening to the whole album!
God those guys were/are sooo talented.
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Here's another gem from Mike Shinoda. It's called "Hands Held High." There are two F-bombs in the first verse, but his point it well put. I hope you like it...I know I sure do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573ffZPcm88
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As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door. Smile
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