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In Memory of Dennis Loomis, I wanted to bring up one of his favorite effects for discussion:- Histed Heisted

http://dennisloomis.com/memdeck/memdeck02.html

I have performed this effect only once, and unfortunately bombed miserably due to the fact that I could not convincingly recite the mem stack order while looking at a shuffled deck. People could sense that I wasn't recalling the cards I was seeing as I looked at the cards. I have never felt comfortable performing this piece since....even though it's a super powerful effect and the play off is strong.

I have decided to look into adding this effect to my formal parlor show but this time, but wanted to add two changes to the effect.

1) The only way I could pull off calling the mem stack order without suspicion (even though I have been playing with the stack for almost a decade) would be to switch the deck (in mem deck order) after the selection and shuffling process was completed. There shouldn't be any heat of the cards anyway after the selection process ( because it is a thought of card) that switching the deck in the offbeat should be undetected. The switch could also allow one to ask a spectator to call out the cards fairly (though this could affect pacing etc).

2) My second addition to the effect would be to use an invisible deck wrapped up in a parcel or in an envelope in plain sight for the entire performance. I would 'stack' commonly thought of cards on the middle the the invisible deck and will have an option of singling out any one of the ten spectators as the last reveal once I ascertain what card that person is thinking of.

Any additional thoughts or feedback to my additions would be greatly appreciated. But would also love some advice from those that have worked this on how you would keep the divination of 10 cards fresh, cause after about the forth divination, it would start to feel abit anti-climatic until the final prediction.

Appreciate your time in advance

Thanks

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Could replace the deck switch with a crib sheet but still wouldn't feel as organic as actually really calling out the cards....being able to subtlely show afew cards as you call them would also be a great convincer ( well it is exactly what you are doing!!!) that you are calling the cards as you see them. I think I am more comfortable with the deck switch...
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The deck switch is a very good method also because you can have somebody near you who sees that you do what you say to do Smile There is a long thread with many ideas already you should read: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=205
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Thanks Jan. You are always very helpful

All the best
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Continuing the discussion of :-

"would also love some advice from those that have worked this on how you would keep the divination of 10 cards fresh, cause after about the forth divination, it would start to feel abit anti-climatic until the final prediction"

I currently perform Richard Osterlind's Radar Deck instead as a four person thought of card reveal. I like it a lot cause it hits home hard with 4 spectators without the feeling it is dragging out and you know the 4 thought of cards by making two statements that doesn't feel like you are 'fishing'. So in that since it is more direct than Histed Heisted but obviously won't play as big....but than again I'm sure the likes of Koran and Osterlind has played this to a crowd of 100s!
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In memory of Dennis Loomis, and with thanks to Jan Forster for mentioning the other thread, I would like to suggest the following idea.

This may sound difficult, and I have not tried it, but if you are capable of memorizing an entire deck of 52 cards, you might be able to do this:

After running through each sequence of 10 cards, and identifying which spectator "recognizes" one of them, do not reveal the card, but ask that spectator to sit down. You remember which card that spectator chose. Then, when all 10 cards have been spoken for, ask all 10 spectators to stand up, and run through their cards rapid-fire, and in any order.

I think that would be an impressive finale in and of itself. But you could always skip one and then do the envelope thing, too.
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I think this is an interesting idea. But we have to keep in mind that we need a "logical" justification for calling out cards. Simon Aronson's approach is very good. Jan
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Hi Jan,

Yes, I think you are right about that. Mr. Aronson's approach does provide justification both for the initial distribution of small packets of cards, and for calling them out in somewhat larger groups during the reveals.

Here's a plot, though, that might work.

Initially, the performer gives a small packet of cards to a spectator, and asks her to shuffle them, choose one, and remember it (or write down its name). Then, as if thinking of something better, something to make the task more challenging, he asks for another 9 volunteers, and does the same thing with each of them, as if he will then have one of them chosen at random for the reveal.

He then recovers the cards, shuffles them, and reads off the first group of ten, asking anyone who might have chosen any one of those cards to stand.

Having done that, he then says he has an even better idea, and runs through the subsequent groups of ten.

He asks for one of the volunteers to stand so that the card might be telepathically identified. He struggles. Finally he shrugs and asks all of the volunteers to stand, and at that point he seems to have a sudden revelation, and names all of the ten selections in rapid fire order. Possibly withholding one for the envelope.
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