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NateReeves New user 97 Posts |
Are there any ungimmicked chop cup routines out there that don't use a wand and only use one ball?
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
Eric Henning's routine comes close. You could also look at Mark Jenest's "Jiggernaut".
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
Actually, an ungimmicked Chop Cup is just a cup.
I thought Jiggernaut was gimmicked.
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
Nope. Jiggernaut is performed with an ungaffed jigger.
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Colonel Clark Regular user Mesa, AZ 127 Posts |
Christian Jedinat's Kaffeewette ("Coffee Bet") comes close - an ungimmicked cup and a single bill.
For more info see: http://www.jedinat.com (...with thanks to Bill Palmer) |
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Riley Special user Swansea UK 955 Posts |
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On 2013-06-12 17:38, Dave V wrote: lol. The late Patrick Page used to perform a short routine with just one ungimmicked cup. If anyone asked him about his 'Chop Cup' routine he'd reply "It's NOT a Chop Cup, it's a bl**dy cup!" Happy days. |
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Before the Wheatley Cup became popular there were many effects using a cup and small object. Some were gaffed in interesting ways and others not.
When a magician in our CIrcle demonstrated the Chop Cup back in the 60's several other members immediately demonstrate how to duplicate every move with no gaff. The answer to your question is out there, but may not be on the Internet. Look to the result you are attempting to achieve and focus on Methods that will achieve it. Don't try an duplicate a ChopCup -- just do something magical. Check out "Scout Around" -- most Effects use no gaff, but one can be introduced if desired and then removed. "FoldCup" also uses no gaff.
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ncsteve Veteran user North Carolina 313 Posts |
Craig Petty has a multiphase routine that uses a borrowed cup & borrowed bill. It's called Chop.
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Magic from A to Z Elite user Sweet Home Alabama 482 Posts |
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Lundonia Veteran user refuses to read more than 321 Posts |
And of course Axel Hecklau's "Just a Cup", an ungimmicked leather dice cup.
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
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On 2013-06-13 22:37, Magic from A to Z wrote: Actually, that's ungimmicked - not a chop cup. But, it is an excellent routine. |
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Leo H Inner circle 1332 Posts |
Bob White has an ungimmicked chop cup routine from his Cups and Balls: A Practical Approach DVD. It's listed on the back as "Dai Vernon's Single Cup and Ball Routine from his 1968 Lecture."
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Okay. Let's quit butchering the English language. If it's an ungimmicked cup routine, then it's NOT a Chop Cup. It's a cup. Period.
If you have the Tarbell course, look up Clarke Crandall's one cup routine. If you don't have the Tarbell course, what the heck are you doing on a magic forum?
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Tom Fenton Inner circle Leeds, UK (but I'm Scottish) 1477 Posts |
"The Swatter" strikes!!!
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geemack Loyal user Greg McNeil Peoria,Illinois 296 Posts |
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On 2013-06-18 14:15, Bill Palmer wrote... And the distinction between a bowl and a cup is purely subjective, too. See "sake cup" in Google Images for examples. Oh, some of them look like boxes, some look like baskets, and some look like saucers? Glass, wood, bamboo, ceramics, metal, plastic, and even papier mâché? Well, if someone didn't write a routine about it in a magic book or sell it at a magic supply store, you'd better not use it. |
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Donnie Buckley V.I.P. Cleveland, Ohio 1123 Posts |
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On 2013-06-18 14:15, Bill Palmer wrote: That's EXACTLY what I thought when I read the title of this thread! It may be a cup, bowl, box, hat, or other any other vessel - but it ain't chopped unless it's chopped. |
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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts |
You should see my ungimmicked Svengali deck routine...
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts |
Can anyone remember the routine that's designed for magicians as the audience, and where they think the cup is chopped but it turns out it isn't?
Fortasse |
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plungerman Loyal user 287 Posts |
I think everyone has already given the name of this routine as they know it.
Don't forget to condition them with the fair ball before using the chopped one! |
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afinemesh Inner circle Senseless gibberish that amounts to 2621 Posts |
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On 2013-06-13 22:37, Magic from A to Z wrote: Pure gold!
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