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Mr_Nutkins
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Hi,
Recently I learnt to stack dice... but now what?
It just seems like juggling!
Oooh look... I can stack 5, now 6 , now 7...and look the top one is a different colour.. so!
Any ideas to make it entertaining?
Cheers,
Tel
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Making it entertaining is up to you. Sure it is juggling and juggling usually goes over better than a lot of magic.

Have some "misses" and when you FINALLY make it you get more reactions.

Lots of action and lots of other things you can do with dice.
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Make the dice vanish one at a time from the stack under the cup. Change the color of the dice. Actually once you stack them, the resultant stacks diminish in importance unless you make them look more dificult or more interesting. How to do that is what makes a performer.

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It's all about the final load.
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I read of a routine years ago where the magician stacked dice with each hand. He had red dice under one cup and white dice under the other cup. He lined the dice up and each time he stacked them and lifted the cups, a die would change places with one in the other cup. He would do this until the two colors changed places entirely.

The routine is found in a pamphlet entitled "Dice Dexterity" by Audley Walsh. It has some pretty good stuff in it in addition. You might also want to check out Ed Marlo's "Shoot the Works", but I can't really remember what was in it...good routines are rare in this field.

Hope this helps you out.

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There's also a neat looking routine in Paul Gertner's "Steel and Silver" in which the dice are stacked and then begin to penetrate through the cup. Might be worth checking out (there's other excellent items in the book as well).

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Thanks for the advice
Cheers,
Tel
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On 2003-12-02 22:12, Pete Biro wrote:
Two loads?
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"Dice Dexterity" Got it and still spill em all over.

Isn't it "Live and let DIE"
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I personally consider dice stacking in and of itself to be juggling versus magic, but as others have said, magic can be added. Del Ray had a great dice stacking routine where a lot of magic happened, including naming the number that would be showing on the top die of the stack before he lifted the cup, and making all of the dice vanish. Del Ray's other non-stack-related work with dice was incredible as well.

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I was going to mention that John Mendoza would name
the number on the top die of the stack as did Del Ray thanks to Larry D's post.
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Maybe if your are dropping dice you should practice in a bathtub? Smile
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Tough to make it entertaining. Barry Govan had a routine where they change places with coins in a purse, I believe. If you don't mind sharing the spotlight; end by teaching each member to do it. They won't but--talk about audience participation, getting ten minutes for nothing, really having fun, getting down from the throne of the magician who can do it but you can't. MartyK
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A great friend of mine who will kill me if I put his name down had an audience completly shocked with laughter just by balancing a ball on his finger. how did he do it? With the 3 P's...
Personality
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It helps the he is a funny guy!
Piece of advise for you make a list of all reasons why you would have this rope with you, for example:
1. To hang myself
2. To hang my wife
3. because I was a boy scout and I never got my knott badge(or ribbon )
once you get a good list going see what you can use and see if you can write some good jokes or comments that will keep the audience interested.
Let me know how it goes!!
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On 2003-12-04 21:47, Pete Biro wrote:
Maybe if your are dropping dice you should practice in a bathtub? Smile


Reminds me of my infancy...craps in a bathtub.
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And drowning your rubber duckie? Smile
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I don't present dice stacking as juggling. I talk about a dice game I was playing where you had to shake the dice in the overturned cup. I never could win because I could not read the spots on the dice (because they were stacked up on each other). I go on from there. Some of the audience may see it as juggling but I don't say anything to give them this idea. Some of the audience will see it as magic. Either way they are entertained by the presentation.
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One tip - don't raise the cup off the table while doing the stacking. The audience will almost automatically see it as a juggling exhibition if you do.
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When you do color changes, loads, vanishes and number prediction it is not just juggling.

Today at lunch at the Magic Caslte a magician from the Netherlands (I didn't write his name down and can't remember it-senior moments keep winning)... but his act included about 70=percent dice stacking.

He stared with one cup and four dice, worked his way up to a long tubular cup (made from a cardboard tube?) and stacked a world record 20 dice tall stack.

It was very interesting, he was good, but did not really present it as magic, more a stunt, but it played well.
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I basically present dice stacking as per John Mendoza's routine - where you finish with a jumbo pair of dice under a cup - but I do add a few more bits (eg, saying "Watch" and then stacking the dice on my wristwatch).

However, I have to disagree with Randy. Lifting the cup off the table is one of THE most important things to do. You need to convince the audience that you aren't just holding the four dice in the cup (or in your hand against the cup) as you pick them up.
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