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Lawrence O
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Fools me... but, after all, I'm not Nate Leipzig

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Very Nice JJ.
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Ado
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Nice indeed. Didn't see anything the first time.
Didn't see anything the second time either, but then easily inferred how it works. That's a very deceptive move, it looks so natural.

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Very cool!

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jjsanvert
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On 2013-06-17 15:25, CharliePA wrote:
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On 2013-06-17 06:33, jjsanvert wrote:
Yes, it was later described in Further Lost Inner Secrets by Stephen Minch (1989): "Given the Slip" p.75.


Does that mean that it is in the Inner Card Trology too?

Wonderful, BTW!


No, it is not described in the Inner Card Trilogy.
Thanks for the great movie El Mystico. I think it was shot in Belgium, not in France, because I was in France at the Vernon's lecture, and I was also in Belgium - and also because the translator is Guy Lammertin (maybe I spelled his name incorrectly, my apologies for that) who was living in Belgium and translated this lecture as I was there...
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On 2013-06-17 10:01, pabloinus wrote:
It is nice, but the way of turning the cards is not totally natural, which I don't think it makes the move invisible for the cheating world.
I am not criticizing Sanvert, the move is what I don't like.


I think it is quite natural in a layman pt of view.
At this moment, I cant think of a more natural way to turn over a packet with one hand.
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On 2013-06-18 14:27, asherfox wrote:
At this moment, I cant think of a more natural way to turn over a packet with one hand.

But wouldn't it be more natural to use both hands?
jjsanvert
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No
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For french magicians,JJS describes this effect in "Le Magicien" about 20 years ago. I mention it but it's the only issue (with Dai Vernon on the cover)of this magazine that I don't have in my possession.

I also remeber the articles of JJS in these magazines and all were goods : tricks and critisms.
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On 2013-06-19 07:09, Jiceh wrote:
For french magicians,JJS describes this effect in "Le Magicien" about 20 years ago. I mention it but it's the only issue (with Dai Vernon on the cover)of this magazine that I don't have in my possession.

I also remeber the articles of JJS in these magazines and all were goods : tricks and critisms.


Thanks !
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Mr. Sanvert, your work is beautiful.
Here's another approach to the same effect. Method and "feel" wise, it's completely different and without the angle issues mentioned in Stephen Minch's write-up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylL3cZNR-XA

BTW, please excuse the plug at the end of the video. I'm putting up the link because its relevant to the discussion, not to pitch product.

Best,

Doc
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Oh, I like this version very much too, although the pace has to be different I guess to justify the move.

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The Dixon Drop. A CLASSIC move in magic!
jjsanvert
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Ahah! Nice idea! This has nothing to do with the Vernon approach, but it is a very good move. Thanks for sharing, Doc.
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On 2013-06-17 08:29, Count Lustig wrote:
Still, a good move for magic sessions and YouTube videos.


And the gaming table, apparently.

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On 2013-06-24 18:49, Rupert Pupkin wrote:
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On 2013-06-17 08:29, Count Lustig wrote:
Still, a good move for magic sessions and YouTube videos.


And the gaming table, apparently.

R

Only in the long-defunct game of Banker and Broker. If you understood how the scam worked, you would know that there was a single victim against a team of several cheats. The mechanic only had to fool one person and had the aid of partners to provide misdirection. If those are the conditions you have when you perform, this is a very practical move.
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On 2013-06-24 20:03, Count Lustig wrote:
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On 2013-06-24 18:49, Rupert Pupkin wrote:
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On 2013-06-17 08:29, Count Lustig wrote:
Still, a good move for magic sessions and YouTube videos.


And the gaming table, apparently.

R

Only in the long-defunct game of Banker and Broker. If you understood how the scam worked, you would know that there was a single victim against a team of several cheats. The mechanic only had to fool one person and had the aid of partners to provide misdirection. If those are the conditions you have when you perform, this is a very practical move.


Also, as Stephen Minch wrote in The Vernon Chronicles, Volume III,
", “… the steal is completely visible from the left side, and must not be executed if people are seated there.”

Your post explains why someone would create a move that is so vulnerable. Thanks. I've wondered about that a long time.

DD
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On 2013-06-24 20:03, Count Lustig wrote:
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On 2013-06-24 18:49, Rupert Pupkin wrote:
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On 2013-06-17 08:29, Count Lustig wrote:
Still, a good move for magic sessions and YouTube videos.


And the gaming table, apparently.

R

Only in the long-defunct game of Banker and Broker. If you understood how the scam worked, you would know that there was a single victim against a team of several cheats. The mechanic only had to fool one person and had the aid of partners to provide misdirection. If those are the conditions you have when you perform, this is a very practical move.



Have you seen it live? Or have you practiced this move?
I have seen this during a lecture. It fooled many magician without misdirection.
jjsanvert
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Vernon performed this for me - I was alone in front of him (he wanted to share this in a separate room so that nobody could see this) and I had NO idea what was going on. So, I KNOW that it is a great move, if done in the right conditions, believe me!
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Richard mo did this one in his Lecture. It did fool a group of magician.
Jerry sadowitz also have his version on his VHS tape.
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