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Over the last half dozen years or more, I've been slowly downsizing my "collection", and recently decided to downsize a bit more by selling off a couple more figures.
Usually, "downsizing" meant selling off figures and having less of them, but it seems like lately I've apparently put a different meaning to the term "downsizing".
Instead of just selling figures, I recently sold a couple "full-size" figures and bought a couple smaller figures.
First was the Kindig which I posted about previously, he's about 28".

Monday a new figure arrived, whom I haven't measured, but I believe I remember someone stating he is also 28" (though I'm inclined to think he's a little smaller than that).
Most of you will recognize it as one of Kristin L.'s Oddballs & Orphans figures, this one is listed as "Little Man" (but of course, that's not his name now).
I like the little guy and I am pleased to have him.....and technically, I did still downsize my collection. Smile

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Of course he had to have a case to protect his little self, and I had a few of these old rollerskate cases for a few soft puppets I had which I have also sold, which turned out to be the perfect size.
Here he is tucked inside after I cushioned and lined the inside of the case (I didn't bother doing that when I was using the cases for soft puppets) with the little cushioned cover I made for his head and face to protect it further inside the case.

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Oh, forgot to mention, his name is Albert E. Dickens.
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Looking good after his brief holiday down under
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Yes, he's been quite the little international traveler.
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You should have added a disclaimer: please don't try this at home, he's a professional.
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LOL, yes, our figures could be considered contortionists in their cases.
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.....and when you downsize him out the door, you know who to call.

No, not ghostbusters!!!
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Yes, I know, but I think he'll be hanging out here for a while. Smile
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Good. Needs to be used.
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Since I do between 150 to 200 shows year, that involve a lot of air travel, I have also "downsized" my characters in the past few years to make my show more portable. I've sold my full size figures and I now only have about 5 main characters, all of them small figures/puppets. I use them in both my kidshows and adult shows...

Mr. Parley (which I made) is just around 32 inches.

Kulas (by Frank Marshall) is 34 inches.

Sampaguita (stuffed piglet toy) is less than a foot long.

Nebo (locally made owl soft puppet) is around 18 inches high.

Prof. Oke (by Conrad Hartz) is a just a head in the box figure.

...and I have an 18-inch JC Turner back-up figure with a pretty big head, enough to be seen in parlor type shows.


I normally do my shows with just one case--max of two.


I don't know if I will still add full size figures in the future, but now I 'm so happy with what I have and I just concentrate on developing their characters more and writing more materials for each of them.
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Having built scores of figures for other vents over the last 47 years, I can say that the vast majority of them have been in the neighborhood of that common... if arbitrary... 'standard' of 40".
But honestly, I've never bought into the idea that there even is such a thing as a 'standard full size'

I'm just under 5'9" tall, and I don't think that any of the figures I've ever built for myself have measured more than about 34" (86.3cm) tall, though I'm merely guessing (the fact is, I've actually never even really bothered to measure them). Larger figures have always seemed awkward and clunky to me.

So, to me, "Eugene" (at a nominal 34" / 86.3cm tall), IS a full size figure.

There is no "standard" professional size. It just boils down to individual preferences.
The ideal size is always, of course, "whatever works".
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You are right Alan, the ideal size is whatever works for the person using it, same as the old hard figure/soft figure thing, whatever works for the person using it.

Somehow, when I started out way back when, I got the idea that like Alan says, a standard "full-size" figure was around 40", and that was all I wanted.
Then somewhere along the way, I ended up acquiring figures that were more around 36" to 38" - it's funny, looking at the numbers, it doesn't seem such a big difference, but it feels like it is, and I found I liked the slightly smaller size better.

I wouldn't see myself using a figure as small as this "Little Man" figure I just got regularly, but I can still see using it. At one time I never would have considered actually using a figure that small. One of the big pluses of this figure is like the Ony was referring to, small figures are definitely more portable. Even my 36" figures, a good lined case like I use (similar to Selberg's cases) are still pretty bulky to carry, the Little Man's case isn't much more to carry than a briefcase.

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Similar to Dave, as a teenager, I got the impression that a "professional" figure was at least 40" tall, so that's what I wanted. However, over the years, I came to the conclusion that I prefer figures between 30-35". I see pics and videos of vents with larger figures, and sometimes they just look too large, and sometimes even grotesque.

Recently, however, I have come to the realization that I am more of a soft puppet guy. As much as I appreciate the craftmanship and art of a hard figure, as a performer, I prefer the cloth and foam guys.
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Dunham's Walter is a smaller figure and works well. My original "Louie" was a smaller figure and nobody ever complained they couldn't see him. I guess it's just what works for the various characters.

-Philip
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On TV or video, a 24" figure works as well as a 40" one.
A 35" figure would work in a small theater.

But in a very large theater, the people sitting in the back
would not see much if the vent is using a small figure.

Dunham uses video screens for his viewers sitting in the back.
Personally, I would feel cheated if I could not get a seat
in the first dozen rows or so of his show.
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There are a lot of examples of people using smaller figures quite successfully through the years, being the main figure for many.

While it's true in very large venues like Dunham does, a small figure would be totally lost, there aren't a lot of us that are doing stadiums like Dunham. Smile
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Essentially, the people in the audience need to see the figure's mouth move
for the illusion to work.
If they are too far back and cannot see the mouth of the figure,
then the illusion is unsuccessful.

That's another reason why the lips of so many older figures were painted bright red.
It makes it easier for people at a distance see the mouth move.
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Fonsy, your point is well taken. I've read that both Willie Tyler and my personal favorite, Ray Alan, both began with smaller versions of their characters, but needed to "upgrade" to larger figures to play better to larger audiences. Now, personally, I like the original Lord Charles better (which was tiny), but it certainly makes sense why these guys needed larger figures.

By the way, Dave, I really like Little Man!
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Yes, there's a place for the small figures, even if perhaps not in every situation. I think Clifford Guest used small figures on stage. Or Seńor Wences... he used his fist as a puppet face!
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